Help making CHDK and the forum better

[lrossel]

I started with a User Manual for the autobuild. Find it attached for your review. 

What do you think?
Is too detailed? or to superficial?
Let me know your opinions.

[PhyrePhoX]

Will take a look at it on monday, thanks.

[lrossel]

Now I have it almost complete, 80Kb. Just need some help to describe better the following features:

- DNG Format (for the coming soon new trunk)
- RAW buffer cached (new feature added together with the obove described)
- Remote Parameters (and its sub-menu)

Maybe is a good Idea to divide this CHDK User Manual in parts, like:RAW.txt, Zebra.txt, OSD.txt.... in order to have smallest books more readable.

I have to say that I didn't create any of the text, just I copied and pasted from the wiki and the forum, and mostly from http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK/End-Users-Guide-AllBest50, credit to Graystar.

This is what I have already done.

[europanorama]

filenames must contain eighter CHKD or SDM

[PhyrePhoX]

i guess it is the language barrier, but most of your posts dont sound too friendly/polite, especially considering your post count.
also: i dont even understand what you are trying to say here.

[fe50]

filenames must contain eighter CHKD or SDM

You'll see it everywhere on the official download page(s), also SDM uses a different naming & versioning method...

You can find all about the SDM on SDM Homepage, this is also the official download place for all SDM related files.

The official DL page for the CHDK is here.

...so IMHO the current naming is completely adequate, no need to change anything...

[Psychokitty]

i guess it is the language barrier, but most of your posts dont sound too friendly/polite, especially considering your post count.
also: i dont even understand what you are trying to say here.

...huh?! You mean you're allowed to be less friendly & polite as your post count increases?

-Ohhhhh. This explains quite a bit. 

[PhyrePhoX]

what's this offtopic post supposed to mean?
dont just talk the talk - walk the walk. tell me what you mean by "this explains quite a bit".
i dont think someone who is new to a community can demand things in such a way, whereas someone who qualifies as a longtime member who contributes useful things does not always have to be polite (within reason). thats common in all communities, be it in real life or virtual places.

[whoever]

This is certainly an interesting opinion on matters large and small. Especially as uttered by a global moderator.

[michaelkenward]

This is certainly an interesting opinion on matters large and small. Especially as uttered by a global moderator.

I have always thought that longer serving members of a community owe a special care to folks to be more polite than most. After all, they set the tone.

Being rude to newcomers is a great way of reducing a place to a rump of insiders.

Then again, as another newcomer, I may have misunderstood all this stuff.

I have been following this discussion because I wanted to get a feeling for the level of expertise you need. The learning curve is pretty steep. I have been looking for a true "idiot's guide". The FAQ and things are excellent, as is the case by case advice I have seen, but there still isn't something that I can find that matches, say, a Canon camera manual for simplicity. (No jokes please.)

A beginner might be a good person to try this task, but not if they are going to get shouted at by old hands who demand that the level of complexity stay high.

[PhyrePhoX]

of course being a member with a high post count does NOT justify being an a$$hole. i didnt say that.
but being a newbie does NOT justify being an a$$hole as well. common courtesy is the keyword here.
i also didnt say we should be rude to newcomers.
all i'm saying is, is that it is NOT very nice going somewhere new and be like "gimme this and gimme that".
i want simplicity. in manuals, in sourcecode, in wiki. so do the other "old hands" in this community.

[acseven]

Right on.

My 2 cents: more participative members get more respect and more respectful members get more respect.

Members, please commit to the topic and let PhyrePhoX work (by this I mean this discussion ends here).

Thank you
admin

[Psychokitty]

-Walking "the walk"...

acseven, giving PhyrePhox carte blanche to behave in this manner is unreasonable. Read the posts of the member in question here (there are not that many), and you will see for yourself that he uses "please" and "thank you" just as he should. PhyrePhox unloaded on him in typical fashion, and it's completely unwarranted! You've stated that you do not own this board; that it is the members who do. Members are speaking, yet you are not listening. PhyrePhox deserves to be reprimanded. There's no reason for his behavior, and it's been growing worse.
As one of those persons having made a special request of the development team and basically being told by PhyrePhox to go $hit in my hat, I feel that he is quite lacking in his skills as a global moderator. (Keep in mind that I had endorsed him and congratulated him!)
The fact that he is an exceptional contributor does NOT make him exempt from behaving with every bit the courtesy that all members must. I stated to PhyrePhox once already that member will indeed lose respect for him over time if he continues to behave towards them in this manner.

Oh, and PhyrePhox, THAT'S what I mean, just so you know.

[PhyrePhoX]

you gotta be kidding me. the guy we talk about, dont you think his karma speaks for itself? i didnt even smite him, so please dont count my votes there. i cant believe we're having this conversation here. but i will speak no more here in this thread, after all, i am not the first mod to get into a "fight" with you, and i dont wanna be excluded from here because of nothing.

[Psychokitty]

Well he should've been nicer to members, too. It was suggested by someone (surprise-surprise) early on in this thread that there be more of a structural forum divide between end-users and developers in an effort to keep "noobs" from aggravating the "special" folks, but you chose to ignore that suggestion despite the fact that it was you who ASKED! I learned from the BF "experience" but apparently you did not.

...And here we are.