Mode dials and Playback pushbuttons

[barberofcivil]

can you try canon mode 32774 ? Maybe this is also long shutter mode (I had it as MYCOLORS on some other cameras, but that's already on a different mode for this one)

32774 is Long Shutter mode in SX10 as well.  It just shows up as AUTO on screen and Program AE in exif.
The mode doesn't work fully on SX10.  The shutter speed at half press shows up as 1s (or greater if Tv/M is set to greater than 1s, but never less), but the actual shutter speed used is that selected in Tv/M.

[barberofcivil]

OK, here is a list of all the modes, normal and hidden, for the SX10 that I dug up out of the firmware.
The modes have all been tested and load up (I haven't included any the freeze the camera).
For hidden modes, I didn't try to fully test and check them all, so some are listed as unknown for status, meaning I don't know if they do what the mode usually does.

Normal means it's regular mode selectable on the mode dial.

Mode Number	Mode	Status	Notes
2597	Video	Normal Mode
2598	Video: Color Accent	Hidden - Working	Uses setting from Scene: Color Accent
2599	Video: Color Swap	Hidden - Working	Uses setting from Scene: Color Swap
2600	Video: ?	Hidden - Unknown
2601	Video: ?	Hidden - Unknown
2602	Video: ?	Hidden - Unknown
2603	Video: ?	Hidden - Unknown
2604	Video: ?	Hidden - Unknown
16398	Scene: Night Scene	Normal
16401	Scene: Indoor	Normal
16402	Scene: Sunset	Normal
16403	Scene: Foliage	Normal
16404	Scene: Snow	Normal
16405	Scene: Beach	Normal
16406	Scene: Fireworks	Normal
16408	Scene: Aquarium	Normal
16413	Scene: ISO3200	Normal
16414	ISO6400	Hidden - Nonfunctional
16923	Scene: Color Accent	Normal
16924	Scene: Color Swap	Normal
32768	Auto	Normal
32769	M	Normal
32770	Av	Normal
32771	Tv	Normal
32772	P	Normal
32773	Macro	Hidden - Working	Same as using normal macro focus
32774	Long Shutter	Hidden - Nonfunctional	Shows shutter >1s, uses shutter from Tv/M
32779	Night Snapshot	Normal
32780	Landscape	Normal
32781	Portrait	Normal
32784	Kids&Pets	Hidden - Unknown
32791	Underwater	Hidden - Unknown
32793	Fast Shutter	Hidden - Working
32794	Slow Shutter	Hidden - Working
33287	Sports	Normal
33288	Digital Macro	Hidden - Working	Digital zoom must be enabled
33289	Super Macro	Hidden - Working	Can also use digital zoom
33290	Stitch assist	Normal
33295	Creative Light Effect	Hidden - Nonfunctional
33311	Easy	Hidden - Unknown
33312	Quick Shot	Hidden - Unknown
8225	Custom	Normal

[reyalp]

Here is something a little interesting (but maybe not of much use) that I'm not sure if it's been noticed. This is on the SX10 and possibly others with a dedicated video record button.
Whatever mode the camera is set to, when video record is started, the mode numbers in propcase 49 & 50 increase by 1024 (0x400 HEX):
e.g.:
Video: 2597 -> 3621
Sports: 33287 -> 34311
etc.

Yes, this is the same on SD990 if you program the DP button to start video. Good to know SX10 behaves the same way. I need to update mode_get etc to support this.

If anyone can confirm that the other cameras with movie button/shortcut (esp the older ones ) behave the same way, that would be helpful.

Going the other way, setting the modenumber +1024, the camera basically switches to that mode (without the mode icon though).  Also, the exif mode comes up as MovieSnap.

Hmm, if you take a still while shooting video, is that what is in the exif ? (and does the propcase change)

Maybe not of a lot of use though.   I tried initiating a script while video record was on, but it ends the video record and takes a picture in the mode that the actual dial is set to.

It needs to be supported on the get_ side somehow, otherwise CHDK is confused about what mode it is in. I'm not totally sure how to do this yet, it will require some reworking.

One thing I can't find, is how do I initiate video record with a script on the sx10?  It has a dedicated video record button, so using "shoot()" or the others actually takes a photo, it doesn't start video record and I don't seem to see a script actio to start video, am I missing something?

KEY_VIDEO is in the keyboard map, so I assume you can send that from script. If not, you can presumably use
post_levent_to_ui("PressMovieButton")
post_levent_to_ui("UnpressMovieButton")

edit:
Re long shutter: This is an feature of cameras that don't have full manual, I wouldn't expect it to be useful on cameras that have real manual.

the 2600 series modes are canon timelapse on the cameras that have it. You can the find propcase that controls canon timelapse on the wiki, might be worth a try. edit: but not for all, a2000 uses this for regular video!

Video color accent/swap: are thse not available normally on the sx10 ?

regarding propcase 50, can you describe how it behaves with other modes ?

Thanks again for your testing.

[reyalp]

@barberofcivil, it didn't combine Manual/Digital, set_capture_mode_canon(37) just used to set the A590IS to  macro mode with the old modemap. set_capture_mode_canon (33288) does the same thing.

I'm sorry, but set_capture_mode doesn't do anything different from set_capture_mode_cannon. It can only be an error on your part, or something random. Look at the C code yourself if you don't believe me. Substituting _canon in only the second call in your script will do exactly the same thing that happened with the old modemap as far as the camera is concerned.

[user1]

One thing I can't find, is how do I initiate video record with a script on the sx10?  It has a dedicated video record button, so using "shoot()" or the others actually takes a photo, it doesn't start video record and I don't seem to see a script actio to start video, am I missing something?

click("video")

[barberofcivil]

Hmm, if you take a still while shooting video, is that what is in the exif ? (and does the propcase change)

MovieSnap

KEY_VIDEO is in the keyboard map, so I assume you can send that from script. If not, you can presumably use
post_levent_to_ui("PressMovieButton")
post_levent_to_ui("UnpressMovieButton")

Thanks. I have a couple items I want to check with this.

Video color accent/swap: are thse not available normally on the sx10 ?

Yes, indirectly.  By setting the camera to this mode for shooting and starting a video.  That is somewhat the advantage of the video button, you can start in any mode.  May be of use to know that it can be set directly though.

[reyalp]

Modemap cleanup:
I'm going to try to make all the mode constants match their canon descriptions. Here's what I have so far

MODE_NIGHT->MODE_NIGHT_SCENE called "night scene" in canon descriptions not to be confused with "special scene" modes that get the SCN prefix. There is also a SCN version of this on some cameras, currently called NIGHT1 or NIGHT
+ MODE_LONG_SHUTTER was mostly shared with "night scene" or missing from the modemap but functions completely differently
SCN_NIGHT1 -> SCN_NIGHT_SCENE (yay)
SCN_NIGHT-> SCN_NIGHT_SNAPSHOT

the following were all redundant names for the same thing (based on canon manuals). The value closer to the canon description will be used. Some of these have both SCN and non SCN variants
GRASS -> FOLIAGE
CHILD -> KIDS_PETS
PARTY -> INDOOR
WATER->UNDERWATER

Note that various cameras individually have used these inconsistently. This will be cleaned up as much as I can, but errors are likely to remain!

I'm unsure what to do with the modes that have both SCN and non-SCN variants that refer to the same functionality. I don't see why we would ever care about the distinction, but canon does use different ranges of constants for them. For the first step of the cleanup, I'll keep the SCN_ distinction, but suggestions are welcome.

[fe50]

Whatever mode the camera is set to, when video record is started, the mode numbers in propcase 49 & 50 increase by 1024 (0x400 HEX)

If anyone can confirm that the other cameras with movie button/shortcut (esp the older ones ) behave the same way, that would be helpful.

It's the same on the SD870 when using the shortcut button, registered with "Rec. movie", e.g. from M mode: 32772 ->33796 -> 32772.

[Aged]

re S3is extra modes  (8218 and 4215)
I know one of the above has been associated with the C (custom) mode could the other be associated with the fitting of a converter lens ?

The Canon Menu has a software three-way switch effectively Wide angle, Extra Zoom and off.  Presumably the camera is told  to make some adjustments. The switch position does not seem to change Exif values, I have not tried with either converter in place.

[reyalp]

re S3is extra modes  (8218 and 4215)
I know one of the above has been associated with the C (custom) mode could the other be associated with the fitting of a converter lens ?

I wouldn't expect the converter to have it's own mode, since you could use any mode with it, right ?

For C mode (which I would guess is 8218) can you test as described here:
http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,3228.msg44244.html#msg44244
If you can look for a propcase that is set to 8218 after you set this mode, that would also be helpful.

On propset 1 cameras like this, both #0 and #236 are known to show the shooting mode.

[dvip]

Some A590IS fishing:

sleep(500)
print "Striped fish with bubbles icon"
set_capture_mode_canon(32791)
sleep(4000)

print "Video icon - 640/20 fps"
set_capture_mode_canon(3279)
sleep(4000)

print "Video icon - 640/20 fps"
set_capture_mode_canon(2597)
sleep(4000)

print "Video icon - 640/20 fps"
set_capture_mode_canon(2599)
sleep(4000)

print "AUTO icon"
set_capture_mode_canon(33306)
sleep(4000)

sleep(500)
print "Unknown gray box icon/ Like MODE_EASY uses macro"
set_capture_mode_canon(33288)
sleep(4000)

--[[
--]]

[barberofcivil]

print "Striped fish with bubbles icon"
set_capture_mode_canon(32791)

print "Unknown gray box icon/ Like MODE_EASY uses macro"
set_capture_mode_canon(33288)

If you open the pics in ZoomBrowser or some other one with extended exif info, you should be able to see the mode name.
Also, in playback mode, if you swith to display with info, little icons should be present for the mode.
If they are the same in all DryOS they should likely be:
32791 should be Underwater - Striped fish w bubbles
33288 should be Digital Macro - Macro flower with "D" inside.

[dvip]

@barberofcivil,
Exif for both 32791 and 33288 say:
Exposure Mode: Easy Shooting

I think they are some extra SCN modes.

In playmode the icon for 32791 is the striped fish with
bubbles. For 33288 there isn't an icon in playmode, in
recmode the icon is a semi-transparent gray square.

[barberofcivil]

regarding propcase 50, can you describe how it behaves with other modes ?

Thanks again for your testing.

I did some checking and of note is the following:
-in C (custom) mode, 49 holds the emulated/saved modenumber, 50 is 8225
-for all other modes, both are 49 & 50 are the same
-when starting a video in amy mode, 49 & 50 both increase by 1024 (even 2597 for video and the 8225 for custom)
-setting the mode to a mode number +1024, switches to that mode with no icon.  Pictures taken get the exif tag MovieSnap.
-for the additional movie modes, they all show up tagged as Video, but 2598 & 2599 also have the MyColors tag set to Color Accent and Color Swap
-when stopping a video record, the camera switches back to to physical dial set mode

[Microfunguy]

Can you check these canon modes on a460
32774 (maybe mycolors on ixus60/ixus65)

Just enters so-called Manual mode.

33290 (stitch on many, according to canon specs, a460 doesn't have stitch)
I'd be particularly interested to know if stitch actually works on this camera.

Well, it does enter stitch mode and I can take multiple photos.
The left/right keys only seem to browse to previous or next image.

I cannot exit stitch mode by pressing SET  ... or anything.

I just move the dial to a new position.