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Offline jojo99

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Feature request: Renumber photo's
« on: 02 / May / 2010, 12:51:58 »
When I had my A650 IS repaired by Canon, they reset the numbering back to 0001.  Canon support tells me tough luck, there is no way to change that number so I can stay in sequence with the previous photo's I had taken.

Is resetting the internal numbering something that CHKD could do through the menu selections?
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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #1 on: 02 / May / 2010, 13:10:13 »
ISTR the camera will continue from the highest number image on the card.
Don't forget what the H stands for.

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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #2 on: 02 / May / 2010, 15:23:40 »
@jojo99:
Read your camera's manual, page 128: "Resetting the File Number" ;)
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A number one higher than the last one recorded is assigned
to the next image. This is convenient for managing all your
images together on a computer because you avoid file name
duplication when changing folders or memory cards.*

*When a blank memory card is used. If a memory card with recorded
data is used, the 7-digit number for the last recorded folder and
image is compared with the last one on the memory card, and the
larger of the two is utilized as the basis for new images.

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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #3 on: 03 / May / 2010, 06:43:30 »
ISTR the camera will continue from the highest number image on the card.

After I take a set of photo's, I MOVE all photo's OFF of the card, so there aren't any images to number off of.
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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #4 on: 03 / May / 2010, 06:51:18 »
@jojo99:
Read your camera's manual, page 128: "Resetting the File Number" ;)
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A number one higher than the last one recorded is assigned
to the next image. This is convenient for managing all your
images together on a computer because you avoid file name
duplication when changing folders or memory cards.*

*When a blank memory card is used. If a memory card with recorded
data is used, the 7-digit number for the last recorded folder and
image is compared with the last one on the memory card, and the
larger of the two is utilized as the basis for new images.

I do not understand this. 

1. As I stated above, there are no remaining images on the card because the images have been moved to the PC.

2. For your part 2, what 7 digit number is being talked about?  I have a "DCIM" folder and a 100CANON folder underneath on the card (besides the CHDK folders and files under "CHDK".  I don't see any 7 digit numbers on the card.
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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #5 on: 03 / May / 2010, 09:13:41 »
1. As I stated above, there are no remaining images on the card because the images have been moved to the PC.
So put the highest number image back on the card.
Don't forget what the H stands for.

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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #6 on: 03 / May / 2010, 11:47:09 »
1. As I stated above, there are no remaining images on the card because the images have been moved to the PC.
So put the highest number image back on the card.


And then keep leaving the highest number image on the SD card?  That's a pretty poor way to manage the problem.  Which is why I asked if something could be added to CHDK.

Canon MUST have something set internally.  When you first buy the camera, you need do nothing.  The camera automatically increments the image numbers.  AND even if you move all the images off the card, Canon still remembers the next number to assign.
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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #7 on: 03 / May / 2010, 12:35:59 »
1. As I stated above, there are no remaining images on the card because the images have been moved to the PC.
So put the highest number image back on the card.

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And then keep leaving the highest number image on the SD card?  That's a pretty poor way to manage the problem.  Which is why I asked if something could be added to CHDK.

Canon MUST have something set internally.  When you first buy the camera, you need do nothing.  The camera automatically increments the image numbers.  AND even if you move all the images off the card, Canon still remembers the next number to assign.

In your camera menu, you can choose if you want to keep the number sequence or start with 0 again every time you insert the card.

File Numbering, "Auto Reset" or "Continuous"
Like FE50 said, read the manual.
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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #8 on: 03 / May / 2010, 13:44:31 »
i'm sure the number can be set via chdk but needs additional code of course. however i would not advocate such code, as it could be used to manipulate the counter of cameras that are meant to be sold on ebay (for example).
Question: Why is it that important to keep the images in sequence? do you put them all in one folder?

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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #9 on: 03 / May / 2010, 23:11:57 »

In your camera menu, you can choose if you want to keep the number sequence or start with 0 again every time you insert the card.

File Numbering, "Auto Reset" or "Continuous"
Like FE50 said, read the manual.

A little less snark would be a good thing.  Of course I read the FM before I posted this!  And as I stated, I also talked to Canon support.

I DO HAVE the menu item set to CONTINUOUS.  And it does work, except that it started from 0001 again after Canon repaired the camera.
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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #10 on: 03 / May / 2010, 23:19:21 »

i'm sure the number can be set via chdk but needs additional code of course. however i would not advocate such code, as it could be used to manipulate the counter of cameras that are meant to be sold on ebay (for example).

Question: Why is it that important to keep the images in sequence? do you put them all in one folder?

I use separate folders but there are times when I want to merge some folders.  That is when I run into problems and have to use a rename program first to avoid conflicts.

Your eBay example would be a downside of this enhancement but I am sure that there are many things in this world that people manipulate to their advantage when they can.  But that isn't a valid reason. 

As counterpoint, some people say that no one should publish information on security holes in applications and operating systems because it helps hackers.  Similarly with how to pick locks.  Or crack passwords....
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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #11 on: 04 / May / 2010, 03:55:53 »

A little less snark would be a good thing.  Of course I read the FM before I posted this!  And as I stated, I also talked to Canon support.

I DO HAVE the menu item set to CONTINUOUS.  And it does work, except that it started from 0001 again after Canon repaired the camera.

It wasn't meant to be snark but sorry if you took it that way.

My guess is the Canon did not repair your camera but replaced it.
I would assume that if they repair a camera, that at least they take a few pictures to test it and wouldn't bother to reset the counter afterwards.
Did you try to use the vers.req trick? This should normally report the number of pictures that are taken with the camera and I wonder if it differs.

 

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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #12 on: 04 / May / 2010, 06:08:03 »
No, Canon did not replace the camera (I wish they had done so).  I know because the outer case was still scratched on return and the serial number was still partially worn off.  They replace various internal parts.

What is the vers.req trick?
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Re: Feature request: Renumber photo's
« Reply #14 on: 04 / May / 2010, 11:59:39 »
No, Canon did not replace the camera (I wish they had done so).  I know because the outer case was still scratched on return and the serial number was still partially worn off.  They replace various internal parts.

What is the vers.req trick?


See:

http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Vers.req#Q._How_can_I_get_the_original_firmware_version_number_of_my_camera.3F

 


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