Help making CHDK and the forum better

intrnst

Man, we need a dozen more like you around!

The thing is, I'm only a very little fish here. I am just giving my 2 cents back to the CHDK account and enjoying the view. But, following the thread you mention, seems to me that the devs already decided the way they'll do all.
Looks like that you are a young man, full of energy, with some programmer skills and I feel very sorry I have no "job" for you here. The work in this thread is for secretaries. We select, organize and catalog what has been done by others. But if you want to deposit your coin too, my suggestion goes for you to walk around in the forum. Follow some threads until you feel you fit in some place.
It's really a shame we cannot use your energy here. Or maybe you're smart enough to show us how.

Anyway, welcome and enjoy.
Stay well, adcz!

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Edited: link missed.

PhyrePhoX

intrnst
@PhyrePhoX
I notice you're very busy right now, but if you get some time to fell if this is going to somewhere, please, tell me, do a criticism, make a tss tss... whatever.
Thanks anyway.

sorry, was away a few days and only could browse the forum via cellphone. while browsing it is fun with a cellphone, posting things certainly aint 😁
thanks for your contributions to the wiki & the forums lately (of course thanks to the other guys as well), i really like it. i know it is a tedious task, but please keep up the good work 😀
i dont know what to improve, but then again i am not a noob anymore 😉 perhaps linking graystars guide (like already suggested) is a really good idea. perhaps his guide can be re-converted to html or something and to be put in the wiki (at least the parts that are in final shape and are not bound to be changed soon, for example explanation of histogram and screenshots and the like).

intrnst

Hi, PhyrePhoX. Hope you had a good trip.
The Graystar's manual was kinda lost in the middle of other topics. I already relocate it to a better place.
After I complete the page moving process, I'll invite him to collaborate at the "public" page.

Thanks for the tips!

PhyrePhoX

i reorganized some of the sticky threads, unstickied a few and created a few new ones. any comments? what else should be done regarding the stickies? there are too many of them, that i know, but imo all of them are stickified for a good reason.

73113

First of all, great effort! It must be hard work to keep so much information accessible.
Looking at the dates in this thread I sure hope that you haven't given up, it's been a while since people posted here..
Anyway I just wanted to suggest making the link to the wiki on the forum homepage continuous. Right now when other messages blink on that spot you can easily miss it.

edified

I'll start by saying cheers and thanks for all the work that's gone into these releases! Amazing.

As long as you're asking for criticism here's a few ideas:

1. Clean up documentation and downloads BIG TIME. There's loads of old stuff all over scattered over different servers with conflicting and outdated information. I'd be MORE THAN HAPPY to buy a domain and pay for hosting for an official CHDK site that hosts everything in one official place.

The forums should be integrated into a complete site that has up to date information, downloads and resources- have a look at wordpress.org or zenphoto.org. If you insist on keeping old data around, please please please mark it deprecated with a link to updated info.

Ok actually that's about it. Just clean up old stuff or mark it old with a link and give the site real structure.

Cheers, Ed

PhyrePhoX

thanks for the constructive criticism.
however i have to inform you that this is a wiki you are talking about, and a wiki has among other things at least one big feature which distinguishes it so niceley from corporate websites: everybody can alter, add & remove information. everybody. including you 😀
so next time you browse through the wiki and see all the old stuff, please mark it as old. maybe a more experienced wiki-member will "tidy it up".
it's like this: the people who develop chdk sometimes don't speak english so well. sometimes they just dont wanna edit a wiki, because they put all the efforts and sweat into the code before. sometimes developers dont think documentation is needed.
while most people cannot develop code for such a project, it should be very easy writing documentation or cleaning up the wiki.

PhyrePhoX

i started "cleaning" up the wiki. it really is a tedius task.
what we need:
- no more 3 different manuals
- no more 20 different builds etc
- short and precise "navigation" for newbies AND "professionals" alike, so everybody can find out what it's all about and experience the CHDK experience.
- languages

please don't just delete old pages, rename them or move them somewhere else, so that they can still be accessed if need be (i did this with the Legacy - CHDK Wiki legacy builds, i moved them from the download page to this new page and linked them from there for example).

the wiki frontpage needs to be "clean", with no misleading links and descriptions. this also means that we "delete" references to the old builds (dont delete, move somewhere else) like allbest etc. The project has matured, and instead of a project of a thousand builds we only have 1 left now 😀

there is more to it, but i cant remember everything i had on my mind today

edit: we should start cleaning/rewriting/moving stuff from this site Most visited pages - CHDK Wiki like the first 10 to 20 pages. should be no big deal, if its not one person alone doing all the work...

PhyrePhoX

started major rewrite and moving stuff that is old and outdated. the main wiki was heavily modified, however i failed to remove the links from the links section at the bottom - everytime i did it, i messed up the whole layout. somebody else has gotta do it (mind you, i already created the links page, so you only need to delete the links from the main page (of course do not delete the link to the link page 😁))
anyhows, will be off for the weekend.

edit: oh btw, the readme files in the autobuild also need a major rewrite and update. suggestions? put em here please.

lrossel

PhyrePhoX
edit: oh btw, the readme files in the autobuild also need a major rewrite and update. suggestions? put em here please.

Do we need a user manual in a txt file?

I can star it right away, compiling the information all over the wiki pages (firmware usage, Allbest, and morebest)

lrossel

I started with a User Manual for the autobuild. Find it attached for your review. :😀

What do you think? 😳
Is too detailed? or to superficial? 😉
Let me know your opinions.

UserManual.txt

38.68KB

PhyrePhoX

Will take a look at it on monday, thanks.

lrossel

Now I have it almost complete, 80Kb. Just need some help to describe better the following features:

- DNG Format (for the coming soon new trunk)
- RAW buffer cached (new feature added together with the obove described)
- Remote Parameters (and its sub-menu)

Maybe is a good Idea to divide this CHDK User Manual in parts, like:RAW.txt, Zebra.txt, OSD.txt.... in order to have smallest books more readable.

I have to say that I didn't create any of the text, just I copied and pasted from the wiki and the forum, and mostly from http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK/End-Users-Guide-AllBest50, credit to Graystar.

This is what I have already done.

UserManual.txt

73.24KB

europanorama

filenames must contain eighter CHKD or SDM

PhyrePhoX

i guess it is the language barrier, but most of your posts dont sound too friendly/polite, especially considering your post count.
also: i dont even understand what you are trying to say here.

fe50

europanorama
filenames must contain eighter CHKD or SDM

You'll see it everywhere on the official download page(s), also SDM uses a different naming & versioning method...

You can find all about the SDM on SDM Homepage, this is also the official download place for all SDM related files.

The official DL page for the CHDK is here.

...so IMHO the current naming is completely adequate, no need to change anything...

Psychokitty

PhyrePhoX
i guess it is the language barrier, but most of your posts dont sound too friendly/polite, especially considering your post count.
also: i dont even understand what you are trying to say here.

😳 ...huh?! You mean you're allowed to be less friendly & polite as your post count increases?

-Ohhhhh. This explains quite a bit. 😁

PhyrePhoX

what's this offtopic post supposed to mean?
dont just talk the talk - walk the walk. tell me what you mean by "this explains quite a bit".
i dont think someone who is new to a community can demand things in such a way, whereas someone who qualifies as a longtime member who contributes useful things does not always have to be polite (within reason). thats common in all communities, be it in real life or virtual places.

whoever

This is certainly an interesting opinion on matters large and small. Especially as uttered by a global moderator.

michaelkenward

whoever
This is certainly an interesting opinion on matters large and small. Especially as uttered by a global moderator.

I have always thought that longer serving members of a community owe a special care to folks to be more polite than most. After all, they set the tone.

Being rude to newcomers is a great way of reducing a place to a rump of insiders.

Then again, as another newcomer, I may have misunderstood all this stuff.

I have been following this discussion because I wanted to get a feeling for the level of expertise you need. The learning curve is pretty steep. I have been looking for a true "idiot's guide". The FAQ and things are excellent, as is the case by case advice I have seen, but there still isn't something that I can find that matches, say, a Canon camera manual for simplicity. (No jokes please.)

A beginner might be a good person to try this task, but not if they are going to get shouted at by old hands who demand that the level of complexity stay high.

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