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StereoData Maker(SDM) User Guide
« on: 04 / February / 2009, 08:40:04 »
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Good news !

Tom Martin has written a draught of a users guide for SDM.

It describes simply and clearly how to get 'up-and-running' with the minimum of effort.

After feedback has been received, the final version will be available for download from the SDM website.

The draught version is available here  http://www.3dimensionphoto.com/SDM/SDM_Basic_Shooting.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: 06 / February / 2009, 16:19:01 »
Two things:

1) I can't be the only person to read this.

2) Your link is already incorrect. As of the time of this post, it should be: http://www.3dimensionphoto.com/SDM/SDM_Basic_Shooting_1-76.pdf

3) THREE! OK, three things:

3) Tom, It's too basic. They can get SDM running, but sync cable building? Mounting? etc. Most of what's in that can be gleaned from reading the wiki. Base pair distance and why the 1/30th rule is actually a rule, understanding why nearly all of us prefer hyperstereoscopic pairs vs. actual 6.5cm pairs, and minimal vertical tilt is good, and why parallax distortion kills, etc.

I know you open with "there are other guides" etc. but mentioning them, linking to them, or downright stealing content from them... Those that read this guid might get some stereo pairs, but they won't know what to do with them, how to align them, or how to view them in stereo. Woo? Also, it needs more pictures! If you're going to make a really basic guide, show how to mount a pair of cameras. That tends to be, uhm, important and stuff. :D The font is less than friendly, leaving a stale, worn feeling, but that's cosmetic. And FINALLY - there shouldn't be much troubleshooting info if it's intended to be a "basic" guide. Send them here, to the Y! listbot, etc.

Sorry if that seems totally negative. It is. It's quite a challenge to make an introductory document regarding an advanced subject... I've read many horrible beginning organic chemistry books, as it were...

Good idea, and good luck! And for Tom's sake, someone else say something.
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« Reply #2 on: 06 / February / 2009, 17:05:56 »
Quote from: Anaglyphic on 06 / February / 2009, 16:19:01
someone else say something.

The guide has been warmly received by members of the Yahoo SDM Group.
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Re: StereoData Maker(SDM) User Guide
« Reply #3 on: 06 / February / 2009, 18:52:00 »
Quote from: Anaglyphic on 06 / February / 2009, 16:19:01

Sorry if that seems totally negative. It is. It's quite a challenge to make an introductory document regarding an advanced subject... I've read many horrible beginning organic chemistry books, as it were...

Good idea, and good luck! And for Tom's sake, someone else say something.

I think that the guide is not pretending to be an advanced guide into stereo photography or "how to build your stereo camera" buy assumes that the reader already has that knowledge.

It is called SDM user guide because it deals with the subject of how to install SDM.

Sure, it would be nice if more advanced options and stereo rules are added and I think they will but Tom has just started with this guide and so far, it is a good starting point.

Those who are interested in normal photography or want to know more about CHDK or the differences between CHDK and SDM will surely visit this forum just like I do.

Frans
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Re: StereoData Maker(SDM) User Guide
« Reply #4 on: 06 / February / 2009, 23:45:01 »
Fair enough. It's hard to disassociate your years of doing this stuff... but SDM in and of itself isn't the tool... the key are two properly aligned cameras and the remote wiring, be it the quick and dirty 3V cell and a switch, or Damir Vrancic's USB board. Then of course your workflow. Finally your viewing, which can be anything from my namesake to a 3D-capable LCD.

Without all of this, SDM isn't very useful. But OK maybe I'm dense. I figured if you could do all that on your own or from what you could find on the web, then WOW you should certainly be able to use Mfg's excellent documentation...

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Those who are interested in normal photography or want to know more about CHDK or the differences between CHDK and SDM will surely visit this forum just like I do.

Yea, but see, that's just it. Stereoscopy isn't just point and click and hope the pic looks O.K. It takes effort, and a bit of knowledge beyond what you can pick up casually... it's research and it's practice. Thank <blank> that we have digital cameras as opposed to the rolls of film and buckets of used developer we'd waste.

I do know the "average newbie" (whatever that may be) that's interested in buying a 2nd camera and attempting this "SDM thing" will want it to work correctly as fast as possible so they don't get discouraged... so I'll re-evaluate your guide as just that, getting SDM up and running.

Not that my opinion matters anyway - but since it was put out there as a RFQ... I did.  :haha

Take care!
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Re: StereoData Maker(SDM) User Guide
« Reply #5 on: 07 / February / 2009, 08:06:44 »
Nice! To maintain a certain coherence, I've stickied this one in General Assistance for stable releases (i.e. the CHDK user guide is also stickied there, and these are two major builds right now...).

Microfunguy, please remind yourself to update/refer to this post whenever someone changes the guide.

cheers
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Re: StereoData Maker(SDM) User Guide
« Reply #6 on: 27 / April / 2009, 18:39:06 »
Hi there,
Is there any way to let SDM works with a powershot g9 and h firmware???

I guess not yet isn't it?

Thanks

MZ
Quote from: Microfunguy on 04 / February / 2009, 08:40:04
Good news !

Tom Martin has written a draught of a users guide for SDM.

It describes simply and clearly how to get 'up-and-running' with the minimum of effort.

After feedback has been received, the final version will be available for download from the SDM website.

The draught version is available here  http://www.3dimensionphoto.com/SDM/SDM_Basic_Shooting.pdf
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Re: StereoData Maker(SDM) User Guide
« Reply #7 on: 27 / April / 2009, 19:01:46 »
Quote from: mazingaZ on 27 / April / 2009, 18:39:06
Is there any way to let SDM works with a powershot g9 and h firmware???

If you update the firmware to the Canon 100i version, an  SDM build is available.
It will be included in release SDM 1.81 but I can send you a copy now.
A number of SDM users updated the Canon firmware to 100i without any problems.
Just make sure you have fresh batteries or use an external power supply.
Let me know if you do the update.


David
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Re: StereoData Maker(SDM) User Guide
« Reply #8 on: 11 / May / 2009, 07:51:40 »
Hey David,
this is really a greet news!!!
do you know when the 1.81 will be released?
So it is safe to pass to 100i firmware from 100h and 100g isn't it?
I'll do it for both my cameras.

Davide
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Re: StereoData Maker(SDM) User Guide
« Reply #9 on: 22 / May / 2009, 12:59:47 »
hi david, i watched the post from my mobile and i didn't saw you was talking to me. i've updated my firmware to 100i so if you can please send me the sdm 1.81. i'll wait to hear frm you, davide
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