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Offline javedjoe90

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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #10 on: 26 / February / 2014, 22:34:56 »
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hi

thanks again for your reply.

i changed the battery, but no improvement.

the enable sync was disabled.

I wasn't sure how to run the script?

I copied the script to the sd card.  Then I loaded the script from file,  Autostart was on.

I tried using the CA-1,  but i didn't any log file.  I did the message
Ricoh CA-1 Tester at the bottom of the menu,  also logging was enabled.

I've not run scripts before so wasn't sure what i was doing.

Again thanks for looking into this.
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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #11 on: 27 / February / 2014, 08:04:32 »
Quote from: javedjoe90 on 26 / February / 2014, 22:34:56
I wasn't sure how to run the script?  I tried using the CA-1,  but i didn't any log file.  I did the message
Ricoh CA-1 Tester at the bottom of the menu,  also logging was enabled
This shows that you loaded the script properly so the hard part it done.

To run a script, the camera needs to be in CHDK <ALT> mode with the CHDK menus closed.  Then simply fully press the shutter release button.   You should see the message "Ricoh CA-1 test started" appear on the screen and then each time you press the button on the CA-1 you should get a message telling you what happened.

Link > CHDK Manual section on Scripting

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Then I loaded the script from file,  Autostart was on.
Autostart will cause the script to run each time you turn the camera on.  This can be confusing so you should probably turn it off.
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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #12 on: 28 / February / 2014, 14:29:37 »
hi

thanks again.

here is the log file

Ricoh CA-1 test started
 press the Menu key to halt
001 0030:-170:0000 half press
002 0150:0000:0000 full press
003 0030:-030:0030 release
004 0030:-230:0000 half press
005 0140:0000:0000 full press
006 0030:-040:0030 release
007 0020:-110:0000 half press
008 0150:0000:0000 full press
009 0030:-030:0030 release
010 0030:-150:0000 half press
011 0160:0000:0000 full press
012 0030:-020:0030 release
013 0030:-210:0000 half press
014 0150:0000:0000 full press
015 0030:-030:0030 release
016 0040:0000:0000 half press
017 0160:0000:0000 full press
018 0030:-030:0030 release
019 0030:0000:0000 half press
020 0160:0000:0000 full press
021 0030:-030:0040 release
022 0030:0000:0000 half press
023 0140:0000:0000 full press
024 0030:-030:0030 release
025 0030:-270:0000 half press
026 0140:0000:0000 full press
027 0030:-030:0030 release
028 0030:0000:0000 half press
029 0030:-030:0030 release
030 0030:0000:0000 half press
031 0150:0000:0000 full press
032 0030:-030:0030 release
033 0030:-170:0000 half press
034 0160:0000:0000 full press
035 0020:-030:0030 release
036 0030:-170:0000 half press
037 0150:0000:0000 full press
038 0020:-030:0030 release
*** FINISHED ***

during this test it looked to me that even if i pressed the remote button lightly/temporarily the camera was showing a half,full press and release message on the screen in quick succession.  when i pressed and hold the remote button down a little longer first a half press message appeard then the full press was seen  until i release the button at which point the release message was shown.

i had the remote parameters set up so that the switch type was Ricoh-CA1 and the

I hope i did the testing correctly,

please advise further thanks
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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #13 on: 28 / February / 2014, 14:41:51 »
Quote from: javedjoe90 on 28 / February / 2014, 14:29:37
hi thanks again. here is the log file

Ricoh CA-1 test started
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*** FINISHED ***

during this test it looked to me that even if i pressed the remote button lightly/temporarily the camera was showing a half,full press and release message on the screen in quick succession.  when i pressed and hold the remote button down a little longer first a half press message appeared then the full press was seen  until i release the button at which point the release message was shown.

i had the remote parameters set up so that the switch type was Ricoh-CA1 and the
I hope i did the testing correctly, please advise further thanks
Looks pretty much perfect - exactly what I would expect to see.  The sequence of pulses reported is correct. The script will report any pulses that are "out of spec" and I don't see any in your log.

So here's an obvious question.  When you try to use the Ricoh-CA1 to take pictures,  is the camera in CHDK <ALT> mode ?   If so,  it should not be - exit the CHDK menus and CHDK and run the camera in "normal" Canon mode.
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Offline javedjoe90

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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #14 on: 28 / February / 2014, 14:51:00 »
hi again

thanks

when trying to take photos camera was in normal mode.

in my log file it shows a half press, full press, release sequence no matter what i do, in the log file you showed i see a half press, release and then sometimes a full press, release sequence of messages,  is that significant to this problem.
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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #15 on: 28 / February / 2014, 15:41:15 »
Quote from: javedjoe90 on 28 / February / 2014, 14:51:00
in my log file it shows a half press, full press, release sequence no matter what i do, in the log file you showed i see a half press, release and then sometimes a full press, release sequence of messages,  is that significant to this problem.
There are two switches in the CA-1 - one gets triggered earlier in the press than the other one. That creates the half press if you don't push any farther.   It's possible your CA-1 has the half and full press switches triggering together - or that you are pressing a little too hard and never getting the half-press by itself.

Either way, it should take a picture when you press and the pulse sequence is being read correctly by the camera.   I'm puzzled - I guess the next thing is a special build with internal debugging enabled.

Meanwhile, can you try the test mentioned above with the input type set to "one press" and a standard USB cable between your camera and computer as the trigger (by plugging and unplugging the cable at the computer end).  Does that take a picture?
« Last Edit: 28 / February / 2014, 15:43:51 by waterwingz »
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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #16 on: 28 / February / 2014, 21:44:14 »
hi

thanks for your reply.

after your remarks about half press and full press,  i pressed the ca-1 button with an even lighter touch and did observe the half press, release sequence as you got in your log file.  So yes, i was pressing the button too hard before.

After trying the usb plug and unplug test, still i didn't get any results further.

i found a website that sells a software called http://www.breezesys.co.uk/PSRemote/features.htm
that sells a software to remotely control a canon camera from a pc.  it looks like this camera does not support the remote capture feature.  maybe that is why the usb plug and unplug method isn't working, further maybe this camera's chdk software doesn't support remote triggering either,  I'm not sure if my logic is correct.
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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #17 on: 28 / February / 2014, 23:13:30 »
Quote from: javedjoe90 on 28 / February / 2014, 21:44:14
i found a website that sells a software called http://www.breezesys.co.uk/PSRemote/features.htm that sells a software to remotely control a canon camera from a pc.  it looks like this camera does not support the remote capture feature.  maybe that is why the usb plug and unplug method isn't working, further maybe this camera's chdk software doesn't support remote triggering either,  I'm not sure if my logic is correct.
I don't know anything about the PSRemote software package but I do know a little bit about the USB remote code in CHDK.   Based on the results you have posted running the CA-1 test script, your camera clearly does support using a USB remote via the camera's USB connector.  We just have to figure out why its not working when you use it to try and take a picture.  The code to do that is common to all CHDK cameras - I must be missing something obvious.
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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #18 on: 02 / March / 2014, 10:23:54 »
hi

i also tried cam4you but that didn't work either.

You mentioned something about a special build of CHDK for debugging purposes. How hard is that to do, is something i have to do, like programming etc.


thanks
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Re: Help can't get ricoh-ca1 to work with sx160is
« Reply #19 on: 02 / March / 2014, 10:36:13 »
Quote from: javedjoe90 on 02 / March / 2014, 10:23:54
i also tried cam4you but that didn't work either.
Like I said,  I don't know anything about cam4you but I assume its not CHDK so that really does not tell me alot as we have already verified that your remote is producing pulses that CHDK should be able to understand (as the test script worked perfectly).

I've attached a CHDK version for your camera with full debugging enabled.   When you enable the remote,  you will see a lot of information on the camera display.  If you have the camera set to CA-1 mode,  you should see a colored message in the upper left hand corner showing the button press state ( e.g. RELEASED, HALF PRESS, FULL PRESS).  This version will also log a lot of information to the SD card.   Please configure the remote,  go into shooting mode and half press / full press / release several times.  Then zip up all the files that say RC0000n.DAT and post them here?
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