dial and button issues on some cams

reyalp

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #20 on: 20 / June / 2020, 21:30:28 »

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Turns out ixus300 and sx210 both have a "touch" feature on the control dial. If you touch, it's supposed to show the icon of the action that clicking on that part of the dial would trigger.

See https://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=12245.msg121374#msg121374
In the following post, srsa_4c previously noted scripted clicks didn't work on cameras with the similar "touch control dial" feature.

From searching the PDF manuals (for "If you touch the control dial in"), cameras like sx210 are
ixus110, ixus300, ixus1000, sx210, sx220, sx230
These cameras apparently expose the "touch" as a bit in physw_status. Some kbd.c have KEY_*_SOFT keys defined for them (ixus1000 and sx230, commented in ixus100, sx210, sx220). It seems likely that setting both bits for scripted presses or clicks may be required. I'll try to come up with a test build, but it may be complicated to support in the current CHDK keyboard code.

edit:
OTOH, this probably should affect menu

Some older cameras, like the ixus65 srsa_4c mentioned have what canon called a "touch control dial" (also sometimes called feather in the firmware and CHDK) which is similar but also kind of works like a touch based jogdial. The following have this feature based on the manual
ixus65_sd630, ixus75_sd750, ixus950_sd850, ixus860_sd870, ixus900_sd900, ixus960_sd950

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// Edit: G16 would also run with ...
Edit2: Ajeh, ... for the price of "AF frame select" in rec modes, so it´s probably not useful.
Code:

Sorry, I have no idea what this is about.

« Last Edit: 20 / June / 2020, 21:40:30 by reyalp »

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reyalp

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #21 on: 21 / June / 2020, 00:58:52 »

Here's a test build that sets the "touch" bits for left and right on sx210. Please check if scripted click('left') and click('right') work, and also if left and right are still detected correctly in CHDK.

Note if you are using the dialtest script, you should remove the wheel_left() and wheel_right() commands to avoid confusion.

sx210is-100c-1.5.0-5527-reyalp-key-test-1.zip (843.61 kB - downloaded 22 times.)

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Caefix

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #22 on: 21 / June / 2020, 12:14:56 »

Sx210

Behaves same...
Edit: You talked about the wheel, @ Ix300 & Sx210 CLICK 'menu', ('disp') & 'zoom-*' are ignored, too.
Just found k<0 in modified Dialtest.Lua working on both cams.

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			if k ~= 'no_key' then
				if K==1 then click(k); sleep(99) end
				if K<0  then press(k); sleep(99); release(k); sleep(99)  end
				print('key',k)
			break
			end

// G16

Appending Wifi to <alt>-button list was possible, but the "AF frame select" switch would be gone.
Long <ON> ... nothing happens; (?)
Short <on> & <play> fine.

« Last Edit: 21 / June / 2020, 15:06:09 by Caefix »

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reyalp

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #23 on: 21 / June / 2020, 17:37:19 »

Quote from: Caefix on 21 / June / 2020, 12:14:56

Sx210 Behaves same...
Edit: You talked about the wheel, @ Ix300 & Sx210 CLICK 'menu', ('disp') & 'zoom-*' are ignored, too.

Yeah, that makes it unlikely it's related to the touch feature.

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Just found k<0 in modified Dialtest.Lua working on both cams.
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if k ~= 'no_key' then if K==1 then click(k); sleep(99) end if K<0 then press(k); sleep(99); release(k); sleep(99) end print('key',k) break end

Did you try CAM_KEY_PRESS_DELAY higher than 60? A few cameras use 120.

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// G16
Appending Wifi to <alt>-button list was possible, but the "AF frame select" switch would be gone.

They are the same key. It could be added, but the 3 existing options are probably enough.

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Long <ON> ... nothing happens; (?)
Short <on> & <play> fine.

You mean the camera doesn't start at all if you hold power?

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #24 on: 22 / June / 2020, 11:11:06 »

I´ve tested up to 80, but 100 is fine on both cams.

So it can´t be compensated by scripted sleep().

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    #undef  CAM_KEY_PRESS_DELAY
    #define CAM_KEY_PRESS_DELAY              100      // delay after a press

			if k ~= 'no_key' then
				if K>0 then click(k); sleep(K*10) end
				if K<0  then press(k); sleep(-K*10); release(k); sleep(-K*10)  end
				print('key',k,K)
			break
			end

Quote from: reyalp on 21 / June / 2020, 17:37:19

You mean the camera doesn't start at all if you hold power?

G16

YES.
Long <ON> ... nothing happens (Edit: & Not any LED reaction.)
<alt> seems "script mode" only.
& some people want to 'disable' the Wifi- button...

« Last Edit: 22 / June / 2020, 12:18:32 by Caefix »

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waterwingz

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #25 on: 22 / June / 2020, 15:44:16 »

Quote from: Caefix on 22 / June / 2020, 11:11:06

Quote from: reyalp on 21 / June / 2020, 17:37:19
You mean the camera doesn't start at all if you hold power?
G16 YES.
Long <ON> ... nothing happens (Edit: & Not any LED reaction.)

Confirmed. I'll take a look.

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<alt> seems "script mode" only.

I don't understand this comment. Pressing the <ALT> key puts the camera into CHDK <ALT> mode.

Perhaps Caefix has the Script Autostart option set to ALT ? Or something selected in the User Menu ?

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& some people want to 'disable' the Wifi- button...

As I'll be rebuilding and testing anyway, I'll add this.

Edit : hmmm .. "// no GPIO checks needed with 0x12345678 set, native fw handles long press" in boot.c

« Last Edit: 22 / June / 2020, 16:03:45 by waterwingz »

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Caefix

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #26 on: 22 / June / 2020, 16:04:26 »

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With "script mode" I mean 'shutter' starts script.

Edit: That´s what most of (my) other cams do, sorry for confusion (again), too.
After starting cam with long <ON> Chdk´s osd & batt icon is displayed & 'shutter' shoots.

Squirrel2.jpg (1901.43 kB, 3661x2314 - viewed 29 times.)
Model:Canon PowerShot G16 Exposure Time:1/250 seconds F Number:F/2.8 ISO Speed:640 Date Taken:2019:09:30 13:22:06 Metering Mode:Center Weighted Average Flash Mode: Focal Length:30.5 mm Color Space:sRGB

« Last Edit: 23 / June / 2020, 10:50:10 by Caefix »

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waterwingz

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #27 on: 22 / June / 2020, 16:12:29 »

Quote from: Caefix on 22 / June / 2020, 16:04:26

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With "script mode" I mean 'shutter' starts script.

That is what normally happens if you press the shutter button when you are in <ALT> mode.

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After starting cam with long <ON> Chdk´s osd & batt icon is displayed & 'shutter' shoots.

You previously stated that "Long <ON> ... nothing happens (Edit: & Not any LED reaction.)" Now you say that the OSD & BATT icon are displayed and the camera shoots normally?

My G16 does nothing if I us a long <ON>.

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reyalp

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #28 on: 22 / June / 2020, 19:20:00 »

Quote from: waterwingz on 22 / June / 2020, 15:44:16

Edit : hmmm .. "// no GPIO checks needed with 0x12345678 set, native fw handles long press" in boot.c

FWIW, that only seems to work on a few cameras (definitely g7x, maybe sx60)

Others need the startup mode sub overridden, like sx710 101a sub_fc0cf0ee_my in boot.c

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waterwingz

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Re: dial and button issues on some cams

« Reply #29 on: 22 / June / 2020, 19:44:59 »

Quote from: reyalp on 22 / June / 2020, 19:20:00

FWIW, that only seems to work on a few cameras (definitely g7x, maybe sx60)

Thanks .. Basically got that far with 10 minutes of grepping.

It's been 18+ months since I did the G16 port. Capdis no longer works so getting that fixed will take me longer than patching boot.c.

SSDD.

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