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Re: S110, half of the images are overexposed, can it be fixed?
« Reply #10 on: 15 / November / 2023, 02:53:44 »
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Quote from: Mlapse on 14 / November / 2023, 15:01:42
could this really be caused by some defect in the leaf shutter?

Doesn't look quite like I expected but I'm still most likely the shutter...
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Re: S110, half of the images are overexposed, can it be fixed?
« Reply #11 on: 15 / November / 2023, 03:25:04 »
Quote from: c_joerg on 15 / November / 2023, 02:53:44
Doesn't look quite like I expected but I'm still most likely the shutter...

I must agree with you, it must be since it still does movies without overexposure area.
the chances that it is repairable by me seem slim, small parts, extremely tight fit.
so at best replaceable.
since a stuck shutter (closed) is what usually ends the life of my cams there is little chance for me harvesting that part.




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Re: S110, half of the images are overexposed, can it be fixed?
« Reply #12 on: 15 / November / 2023, 14:31:04 »
Quote from: c_joerg on 15 / November / 2023, 02:53:44
Doesn't look quite like I expected but I'm still most likely the shutter...
Quote from: Mlapse on 15 / November / 2023, 03:25:04
I must agree with you, it must be since it still does movies without overexposure area.
Also agree. I'd still be interested to see it on a uniform background. Finding the shutter speed where it isn't totally over-exposed might give a better idea of what's going on.

But in any case, it seems virtually certain to be a hardware fault involving the shutter somehow, so any additional information just be about curiosity and unlikely to change the outcome.
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Re: S110, half of the images are overexposed, can it be fixed?
« Reply #13 on: 15 / November / 2023, 16:48:14 »
Quote from: reyalp on 15 / November / 2023, 14:31:04
I'd still be interested to see it on a uniform background. Finding the shutter speed where it isn't totally over-exposed might give a better idea of what's going on.

But in any case, it seems virtually certain to be a hardware fault involving the shutter somehow, so any additional information just be about curiosity and unlikely to change the outcome.
i have a ton of images with this flaw in all exposures the cam is capable of, since it was in use 24/7 and it took me 2 month to replace it.
it's always the same area, just more (over)exposed......i see no difference in pattern or sun position in any of them.
but if you still want to see a few images that aren't totally overexposed, just let me know. it won't be a white wall, but close to that with a cloudy day, like the ones i posted earlier.

although i don't think i can fix it, i won't put it in the skip just yet and will take a go at disassembling because i'm curious too...but that'll probably not happen before xmas.
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Re: S110, half of the images are overexposed, can it be fixed?
« Reply #14 on: 16 / November / 2023, 02:20:29 »
If it is like I suspect then the error should become smaller and smaller with longer exposure times.
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Re: S110, half of the images are overexposed, can it be fixed?
« Reply #15 on: 16 / November / 2023, 04:05:18 »
Quote from: c_joerg on 16 / November / 2023, 02:20:29
If it is like I suspect then the error should become smaller and smaller with longer exposure times.

not really smaller, but less distinct. see for yourself.
these images were shot in the morning, sun was low behind the cam more to the right side. the earlyer images were from the afternoon with the sun higher behind the cam more to the left.
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Re: S110, half of the images are overexposed, can it be fixed?
« Reply #16 on: 16 / November / 2023, 06:01:28 »
Quote from: Mlapse on 16 / November / 2023, 04:05:18
not really smaller, but less distinct. see for yourself.
With longer times i think about >1s.
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Re: S110, half of the images are overexposed, can it be fixed?
« Reply #17 on: 16 / November / 2023, 06:22:10 »
Quote from: c_joerg on 16 / November / 2023, 06:01:28
With longer times i think about >1s.

those images look like there is no problem, the exposure difference is there from about 1/30 or shorter, with the highest difference with shortest exposure times, as you would expect with light bleeding for n-milisecond because the speed the sensor is read being the same.
between 1 and 15 seconds you really have to know what your looking for to see any difference at all...here are 2 images at a bit longer than one second....there is still a brighter patch, but not much.
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