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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #10 on: 20 / May / 2010, 21:11:57 »
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It has been my experience that 99% of people are appliance operators. The CHDK Wiki has been written by technical people for technical people; your average appliance operator would give up and be bamboozled by the information. Judging by the posts on this forum and KAP sites a lot of people who try to use CHDK have trouble setting up the basics.

Based on the profile at the O'Reilly site it seems that the author is a professional writer. He is no different to the multitude of Windows and Linux authors regurgitating technical material into a format that non-technical (appliance operators) people can understand.

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/4368

Berthold Daum studied photography in Melbourne and has both exhibited and published his images of Australia's natural beauty.

He also hold a Ph.D in Mathematics and is a professional Java and XML developer. Mr. Daum specializes in innovative electronic business technology and electronic content production. His experience in software training and ability to anticipate the needs of professional developers has been demonstrated in his previous books, including Eclipse 2 for Java Developers (Wiley) and Modeling Business Objects with XML Schema (Morgan-Kaufmann).

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http://www.gaby.de/ekildall.htm

You will understand how Bill Gates managed to market an inferior DOS over a superior DOS and managed to become a dominant market leader.

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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #11 on: 21 / May / 2010, 01:21:36 »
this name certainly does not a ring a bell in my book.

I don't think there is a problem with the book being written.
It's a complex matter one can make use of some printed,coherent advise.

But not showing up in the one forum for this narrow topic, kindly introducing the existence of the book and offering a copy to the most senior developers is bad style, Mr Daum.

They were worthy enough to provide you with the sole reason for this book, so they should be worthy enough to know it's there.

Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #12 on: 21 / May / 2010, 12:11:17 »
I would agree with you. If nothing else asking one of the active members or developers to proof read the book for errors or omissions sounds like a bad idea.

We'll see in about a week.

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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #13 on: 22 / May / 2010, 01:17:18 »
Nothing wrong with a book, or someone making money off of it. However, I'd be a bit surprised to find someone qualified to write a book on it who wasn't involved here. There a many things that can't be properly understood without extensive trial and error and/or digging through the code. If he's actually done that, good on him, but one would expect someone making a serious effort to have solicited feedback from the developers and other knowledgeable members.

Another other issue is that CHDK is a moving target. We have enough trouble keeping the wiki up to date, a book will quickly be out of date.

The wiki content is under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ AFAIK, so using it for a book would be OK, as long as it was made available under similar terms.

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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #14 on: 23 / May / 2010, 18:05:49 »
Doing a little more googling, it looks like many of the authors previous books are also made available as free downloads.

Can we please hold off from flaming and insinuation (both here and on the wiki) until the facts are available ?

I also noticed that the author is German, so he may well have been active in the German forum.
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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #15 on: 23 / May / 2010, 18:51:27 »
i don't see any flaming yet ;)

in the german forum the book was mentioned in february already. and nobody there knows who berthold daum is ;)
i guess he IS a user either in here or in the german forum, but obviously never chose to reveal his identity. like fiedel wrote, if i was a person who would write about something i am not involved with, i would seek advice from people who ARE involved with that certain something. after all, you can't just pull everything off of the wiki and the forum and then label your name on it.
kinda like branching/forking chdk without giving back ;)

edit: link to german forum: http://www.wirklemms.de/chdk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1703&highlight=buch
btw in the german forum they also voice similar opinions to those that can be found in this thread here
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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #16 on: 23 / May / 2010, 19:34:16 »
FWIW, I sent him an email and got an vacation auto response back.

Also, Thepanoguy created a wiki page for this http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/The_Canon_Camera_Hackers_Manual
which I have edited slightly.

i don't see any flaming yet ;)
Maybe not, but there seems to be a fair bit of jumping to negative conclusions without much evidence.
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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #17 on: 24 / May / 2010, 01:09:40 »
Hi guys,
I get the impression from the book review that it is all about using existing, and writing your own scripts.

Has anyone seen the book ?.

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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #18 on: 24 / May / 2010, 05:58:34 »
Hi there guys,

Just to let you know that I am also finishing a photography book. I devoted my last chapter for introducing and explaining common usages of the CHDK which I have been using for a while. You can see my book here:

http://www.amazon.com/Beginning-Digital-Image-Processing-Photographers/dp/1430228415/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274694897&sr=8-1

It will be out really soon...

I hope you like it :)

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Re: CHDK book due out end of this month
« Reply #19 on: 30 / May / 2010, 03:12:57 »
Re: The_Canon_Camera_Hackers_Manual - from the Introduction - Acknowledgments -

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With this book, I hope to give something back to the community.

well - for US$20 - that's classic.:) 
All the free documentation available covers all I need so I won't be buying a copy, but it might be helpful for some.

A720IS.

 

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