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Offline mirileh

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unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« on: 19 / April / 2011, 15:04:11 »
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I'm stuck at step 1 - I'm unable to place anything in the SD card directory.

I'm in Windows XP Pro SP3. I have a Canon Ixus 970 IS. I can see my camera directory in explorer. I can see, copy and delete pictures from there. I cannot create or transfer files to the camera's directory.

What should I do?
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Offline Microfunguy

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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #1 on: 19 / April / 2011, 15:55:00 »
Hello and welcome !

Not sure what you mean.
You can see images in a sub-folder of the DCIM directory ?

Are you trying to install CHDK ?

What instructions are you trying to follow ?
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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #2 on: 19 / April / 2011, 16:35:48 »
Because Digital Camera is not a Mass Storage device.
It uses Picture Transfer Protocol, not Mass Storage Protocol.
You can not put any kind of files directly to camera, you will need to use a card reader (or maybe some special software, if camera have some extensions that allows transfers of files of any kind).
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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #3 on: 20 / April / 2011, 00:46:28 »
I don't have a card reader, though I thought my computer would treat my Canon as a storage device (it does that to my fuji finepix camera).

Is there any way I can have my computer do that?
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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #4 on: 20 / April / 2011, 02:53:12 »
No, there is no way.
This depends on how hardware was designed - you can not change this.
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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #5 on: 20 / April / 2011, 04:46:27 »
A card reader is VERY inexpensive, it really is essential.
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Offline mweerden

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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #6 on: 20 / April / 2011, 07:11:35 »
Quote from: mirileh on 20 / April / 2011, 00:46:28
I don't have a card reader, though I thought my computer would treat my Canon as a storage device (it does that to my fuji finepix camera).
I guess Canon figured "lets make it as easy as possible to use". Sifting through directories doesn't match that very well, so they just "fake" a device where you only see the photos from the various directories. I explicitly mention the last because that is probably why it is read-only as well; in which directory should it put new files?

Quote from: cppasm on 20 / April / 2011, 02:53:12
No, there is no way.
This depends on how hardware was designed - you can not change this.
Well.. after you have CHDK on it, you can use one of the CHDK PTP tools to upload/download any file.

Quote from: Microfunguy on 20 / April / 2011, 04:46:27
A card reader is VERY inexpensive, it really is essential.
Very much so. At the very least as backup.

I now do wonder how Canon upgrades the firmware. There has to be a way to hijack it to put CHDK on there, right?
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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #7 on: 20 / April / 2011, 09:01:41 »
@mweerden

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I now do wonder how Canon upgrades the firmware. There has to be a way to hijack it to put CHDK on there, right?

Maybe they're using something like this ;)

wim
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Offline mirileh

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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #8 on: 20 / April / 2011, 09:05:12 »
I'll try and organize a card reader.
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Offline mweerden

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Re: unable to place anything in SD Card directory (in Win XP)
« Reply #9 on: 20 / April / 2011, 11:06:54 »
Quote from: whim on 20 / April / 2011, 09:01:41
Maybe they're using something like this ;)
Hmm.. interesting... but I was hoping for something a bit more in-depth on the workings of it. :)
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