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Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?

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Offline whim

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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #10 on: 23 / April / 2011, 17:11:23 »
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Perfectly illustrates why CHDK-Shell defaults to keeping dowloaded archives ... ;)

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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #11 on: 23 / April / 2011, 17:18:08 »
Quote from: waterwingz on 23 / April / 2011, 16:47:37
Strange thing is that philmoz specially said that the gcc4 compiler barfed without his changes.  Making a buffer bigger never hurts but you would not think it would be compiler specific.
Phil and cppasm both seemed confident that gcc4.4 was just generating invalid code. I took their word for it but I'll have to go through and look again.

If it is too small (and I wouldn't enlarge it without verifying) then it wouldn't be a surprise at all if it changed depending on the compiler, because what got overwritten would depend on what the compiler happened to put near it. Changing the initialization would also have the same effect.
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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #12 on: 23 / April / 2011, 17:35:33 »
Quote from: whim on 23 / April / 2011, 17:11:23
Perfectly illustrates why CHDK-Shell defaults to keeping dowloaded archives ... ;)
Okay - rub it in.  I was cursing the day I asked you to put in the function to delete old versions.  As one of my mentors once told me "Be careful what you ask for,  you might just get it.".

Still,  I had a few of the older version zip files backed up.  And unless I had updated the trunk via CHDK-shell at least every day (or more often - reyalp is VERY proficient at pushing out changes) I would still have been looking at a search through each update for when the problem crept in.
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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #13 on: 23 / April / 2011, 17:39:29 »
Quote from: reyalp on 23 / April / 2011, 17:18:08
If it is too small (and I wouldn't enlarge it without verifying) then it wouldn't be a surprise at all if it changed depending on the compiler, because what got overwritten would depend on what the compiler happened to put near it. Changing the initialization would also have the same effect.
Is there a C programmer in the world who has not been bitten by a buffer that was just a little too small or a buffer missing the magic 0x00 when using strcpy and its brothers ?  At one point in my embedded systems career,  I actually thought about removing all string functions that did not include a buffer length ( i.e.  strncat vs strcat ).


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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #14 on: 23 / April / 2011, 18:00:13 »
Here's a patch to test size issue. It displays the 16 bytes after the normal 40 byte de in misc debug vals. Before readdir has been used, it should be zeros. After it has been used it should all be 0xdededede. If dirent is bigger, it should be something else...
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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #15 on: 23 / April / 2011, 18:24:13 »
Quote from: reyalp on 23 / April / 2011, 18:00:13
Here's a patch to test size issue. It displays the 16 bytes after the normal 40 byte de in misc debug vals. Before readdir has been used, it should be zeros. After it has been used it should all be 0xdededede. If dirent is bigger, it should be something else...
Made the change,  loaded and shot a couple of pix.  The debug stayed at 00000000.   Fired up the menu,  went to file browser and all four lines of the debug read dededede afterwards.

Pretty much what you were expecting.
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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #16 on: 23 / April / 2011, 19:07:10 »
Quote from: waterwingz on 23 / April / 2011, 18:24:13
Quote from: reyalp on 23 / April / 2011, 18:00:13
Here's a patch to test size issue. It displays the 16 bytes after the normal 40 byte de in misc debug vals. Before readdir has been used, it should be zeros. After it has been used it should all be 0xdededede. If dirent is bigger, it should be something else...
Made the change,  loaded and shot a couple of pix.  The debug stayed at 00000000.   Fired up the menu,  went to file browser and all four lines of the debug read dededede afterwards.

Pretty much what you were expecting.

Well if they all stayed de, then it looks like dirent hasn't gotten bigger than 40 bytes, which leaves us without a cause for the crash. Possibly it expects it to be initialized to zeros I guess.
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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #17 on: 23 / April / 2011, 19:19:05 »
Quote from: reyalp on 23 / April / 2011, 19:07:10
Well if they all stayed de, then it looks like dirent hasn't gotten bigger than 40 bytes, which leaves us without a cause for the crash. Possibly it expects it to be initialized to zeros I guess.
Oh oh .. it gets better. Did a little more exploring - using File Browser to explore for files buried deeper in the directory structure.  And guess what ?  When I go deeper I get :

d:             0
d: 12cea600
d: 12cea600
d: 12cea600

on the debug display.   Interesting.


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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #18 on: 23 / April / 2011, 19:38:25 »
Based on sub_FF95B0E4 in ixus120 103c, I'd guess dirent should be 64 bytes

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probably applies to all dryos R39 and later cams.
« Last Edit: 23 / April / 2011, 19:46:06 by reyalp »
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Re: Differences in building with gcc 3.4.6 versus gcc 4.4.0 ?
« Reply #19 on: 23 / April / 2011, 21:52:50 »
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