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What do you think about SOPA (PIPA) Strike?

We need to do everything to stop SOPA/PIPA.
4 (80%)
Nice idea, but I don't care a lot.
0 (0%)
I'm not sure... there are too many things to be considered.
1 (20%)
We shouldn't strike - the act is not so bad.
0 (0%)
I want SOPA and PIPA now!!!
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 4

SOPA STRIKE - what do you think about that?

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SOPA STRIKE - what do you think about that?
« on: 17 / January / 2012, 19:35:10 »
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In a few hours, some sites such as Wikipedia, Google, Facebook, Twitter... will strike to stop SOPA and PIPA acts. These acts are designed to stop digital piracy, but they can cause a kind of censorship in the internet.

With SOPA/PIPA acts USA government could shut down any site that supports piracy in any way, including linking to any other piracy site. And this can have also impact on CHDK project (firmware dumps and links to them, reverse engeneering and so on).

Read more:

http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout

http://sopastrike.com/

Should we take a part in strike? What's your opinion?
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Re: SOPA STRIKE - what do you think about that?
« Reply #1 on: 18 / January / 2012, 08:23:06 »
Wikimedia has a lot of internet power due to the daily traffic visiting the site. On the world stage the CHDK Forum is a small traffic site. Closing the site down for 24 hours will not make any difference.

CHDK is used by a variety of individuals to accomplish cost effective solutions from altitude photography to real time panorama photography.

The US Government will find a way to stop open source projects on the grounds that software hacks can be used to circumvent copy protection. We all know that the US Government is only a legal mouthpiece for the movie and recording studios and corporations trying to stop enthusiasts enhancing a product.

Where the CHDK Forum can make a difference is posting information on how the USA will censor the internet and how that will affect an individual’s right to creative expression.

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Re: SOPA STRIKE - what do you think about that?
« Reply #2 on: 18 / January / 2012, 23:03:54 »
Wikia did a nice job with their anti-SOPA "ads" which were shown across the wikia site, including CHDK.

It's difficult for "CHDK" to do something like this, because there is no CHDK organization. Anyway, a bit late.

SOPA and PIPA are terrible pieces of legislation, I certainly urge people to do whatever they can to oppose them. If you a US citizen, contact your representative and senators. Your individual call/email/letter won't make any noticeable difference, but combined with a thousands of others it can. If you are feeling lazy, the EFF has set up a convenient form https://blacklist.eff.org/

We all know that the US Government is only a legal mouthpiece for the movie and recording studios and corporations trying to stop enthusiasts enhancing a product.
You may "know" that I certainly don't. The US government's actions result from the sum of many competing and contradictory influences.
Don't forget what the H stands for.

Re: SOPA STRIKE - what do you think about that?
« Reply #3 on: 18 / January / 2012, 23:09:49 »
Your individual call/email/letter won't make any noticeable difference, but combined with a thousands of others it can. If you are feeling lazy, the EFF has set up a convenient form https://blacklist.eff.org/
I have a coworker who use to be in government.  He knows of legislation that was changed based on only 6 complaints from voters.    I don't know the actual numbers but I would  bet that 99.9% of people never say anything - a few small voices actually can make a difference.

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Re: SOPA STRIKE - what do you think about that?
« Reply #4 on: 19 / January / 2012, 02:48:23 »
The USA as a world power has lost global dominance and now is trying to flex its muscle through draconian legislation.

I agree that individuals possess very little power. Discussing the issues on forums will be read by individuals who may or may not be a member of the forum. The more the information is circulated the greater the awareness of the issues and the effect on individual rights and liberties.

Reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

“The bill would authorize the U.S. Department of Justice to seek court orders against websites outside U.S. jurisdiction accused of infringing on copyrights, or of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement. After delivering a court order, the U.S. Attorney General could require US-directed Internet service providers, ad networks, and payment processors to suspend doing business with sites found to infringe on federal criminal intellectual property laws. The Attorney General could also bar search engines from displaying links to the sites.

The bill also establishes a two-step process for intellectual property rights holders to seek relief if they have been harmed by a site dedicated to infringement. The rights holder must first notify, in writing, related payment facilitators and ad networks of the identity of the website, who, in turn, must then forward that notification and suspend services to that identified website, unless that site provides a counter notification explaining how it is not in violation. The rights holder can then sue for limited injunctive relief against the site operator, if such a counter notification is provided, or if the payment or advertising services fail to suspend service in the absence of a counter notification.”

I live in Australia. The RIAA tried to enforce USA copyright penalties in Australian Courts and those penalties were dismissed in court. Under existing Australian laws, the RIAA has to prove that the recording industry has sustained a loss by anyone pirating a song. The Australian Courts ruled that the financial loss to the recording industry was 99 cents per song and that is all the RIAA is entitled to claim if they represented the recording industry in an Australian Court.

Australia signed a free trade agreement with the USA in 2010. Depending on the terms of the agreement, an Australian citizen could be extradited to the USA and be tried for copyright infringement in USA Courts and be penalised $6000 per song by the US Courts.

Can the proposed USA legislation be interpreted that anyone involved in the CHDK development is infringing Canon copyright even though the CHDK code is separate open source code that enhances the original Canon code without altering the original Canon camera functionality.

A number of CHDK forum members live in European Union countries. In theory, if there is a USA complainant, the USA could use the NATO alliance as a back door to extradite European Union residents to the USA to enforce USA copyright penalties.

 

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