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« Reply #30 on: 20 / March / 2008, 00:28:38 »
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Quote from: lukg on 19 / March / 2008, 15:51:22
IMHO there's no need to do this just because the DEV (the only one), already knows that many are interested in CHDK for S5, but has not too much time to develope. I'm quite sure he is doing all his best (since he's the first one that hopes to succeed).  :)

This is not meant to be personal, it is born mainly out of frustration.

I suspect that at least some of the people asking about whether his work has been published are after the code in order to try to work on it themselves with the goal of advancing the project.

The idea behind community development is that by gaining access to a pool of people you can spread the load over, theoretically allowing things to progress faster. Currently as there is no reasonably up to date copy of the codebase for the S5 available it is impossible for other members of the community to work on the port.
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« Reply #31 on: 20 / March / 2008, 03:01:15 »
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The idea behind community development is that by gaining access to a pool of people you can spread the load over, theoretically allowing things to progress faster. Currently as there is no reasonably up to date copy of the codebase for the S5 available it is impossible for other members of the community to work on the port.

Oh man, you are so right about that. For example (like i wrote) i dont wanna start over again with the hack, but set up on existing work and go further doing new things in the firmware. Also everyone has a job, like me, and not much time  ???, so time is golden.
Also I am happy seeing more and more people wanting to test and debug. This propels me forward to do some nice stuff in the next time. So guys keep posting(good and meaningful posts:)), the community and communication matters, not the silence! 8)
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« Reply #32 on: 20 / March / 2008, 07:55:38 »
Quote from: intrinsic on 20 / March / 2008, 00:28:38
Quote from: lukg on 19 / March / 2008, 15:51:22
IMHO there's no need to do this just because the DEV (the only one), already knows that many are interested in CHDK for S5, but has not too much time to develope. I'm quite sure he is doing all his best (since he's the first one that hopes to succeed).  :)

This is not meant to be personal, it is born mainly out of frustration.

I suspect that at least some of the people asking about whether his work has been published are after the code in order to try to work on it themselves with the goal of advancing the project.

The idea behind community development is that by gaining access to a pool of people you can spread the load over, theoretically allowing things to progress faster. Currently as there is no reasonably up to date copy of the codebase for the S5 available it is impossible for other members of the community to work on the port.

Ok, i want to be honest. You're right, but I think you didn't understand the situation.
If you read all the 17 pages, you could see all the story. Dataghost is the only developer. Sadly he has not so much time, but sometimes he comes here and tells about his success. Even Scott-geekmug (the one who dumped 1.01a firmware) is waiting dataghost's work just to port on 1.01a...but as said by Dataghost in a post "As I said, the code is still NOT USABLE. The current codebase will not give you anything besides a few fancy texts on the screen, unless you know how to program."
There is a reason if Dataghost shows his progress with mp4 videos instead of making some binary available.
And most important thing, I don't want to bother Dataghost, since he's doing it for free, since he has something more important to do, and since I think if he had something good to share he would do without need to (repeatedly) ask him.
Bye
« Last Edit: 20 / March / 2008, 08:36:41 by lukg »
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« Reply #33 on: 20 / March / 2008, 08:19:07 »
Quote from: enilnacs on 15 / March / 2008, 05:01:20
Did dataghost post somewhere the actual development data(files), so i can go on with the programming ? So I don't start from zero with the firmware hack.

Also what i would like to implement in CHDK is scanline photography.
The idea is to take a single ccd line(h or v), and by moving the cam (constant speed motor based - h or v) getting a perfekt disortion free panorama. I am also thinking forward to realize it without needing a motor and tripod(!), and to implement a motion vector detection algorithm combined with the IS to filter out inconstant and shaky panning speed.
Let's see what ideas i can realize, but first i need my s5is CHDK  8)

If this function already exist within CHDK please tell me.


Hey what a great idea :) wold be nice to see if that could be implemented.

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« Reply #34 on: 21 / March / 2008, 01:42:02 »
*edited post because is now irrelevant after posts were relocated.
« Last Edit: 31 / March / 2008, 16:14:58 by TapouT »
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« Reply #35 on: 21 / March / 2008, 15:35:37 »

 :).
« Last Edit: 31 / March / 2008, 18:41:24 by lukg »
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« Reply #36 on: 23 / March / 2008, 10:58:04 »
Quote from: lukg on 20 / March / 2008, 07:55:38
Ok, i want to be honest. You're right, but I think you didn't understand the situation.

I understand the situation quite well.

Quote from: lukg on 20 / March / 2008, 07:55:38
If you read all the 17 pages, you could see all the story. Dataghost is the only developer. Sadly he has not so much time, but sometimes he comes here and tells about his success. Even Scott-geekmug (the one who dumped 1.01a firmware) is waiting dataghost's work just to port on 1.01a...but as said by Dataghost in a post "As I said, the code is still NOT USABLE. The current codebase will not give you anything besides a few fancy texts on the screen, unless you know how to program."

I've read the entire thread and have posted several times for example:
http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,234.msg1889.html#msg1889
http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,234.msg2281.html#msg2281
http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,234.msg2291.html#msg2291

The reason DataGhost is the only developer currently is because the code is not available, it is wasteful for somebody else to start from the early preliminary stuff he has posted (see his response to one of my earlier posts) to work to where he is now, if the code were available others would for instance be able to assist with fixing some of the bugs he is working on currently. This is also why geekmug is waiting, because replicating all the work is pointless.

The post you refer to was quite some time ago, if you refer to his latest post: http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,234.msg1889.html#msg1889 he has progressed quite a long way since then.

Quote from: lukg on 20 / March / 2008, 07:55:38
There is a reason if Dataghost shows his progress with mp4 videos instead of making some binary available.

I'm not interested in a binary I'm looking for the source.
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« Reply #37 on: 23 / March / 2008, 14:44:18 »
Ok, i don't want to talk about this anymore! My last 2 cents...my criticism wasn't referred to you, but  maybe Dataghost doesn't want to release HIS CODE since it is still messed up (or for any other reason we don't know)?? Asking is Ok, insisting on it is not ok.
I would be happy if you could be the "2nd" developer :) (since scott is waiting the final sources), but I have no sources to give you.
Do you think that all those messages about "give me your binary to test", "where is dataghost", "is dataghost still alive", "c'mon Dataghost, we need CHDK :D " etc.etc. could help you in having sources more quickly?
Asking for that everyday doesn't change the situation, it could bother him instead (and make this thread a garbage can, also).
Did nobody notice that Dataghost seems to ignore all those messages with "Give me your binary to test" etc.etc.??

EDIT: Thanks Grand!
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« Reply #38 on: 24 / March / 2008, 18:08:38 »
Yes, I'm ignoring them. I'll release my stuff when I feel it's sufficiently 'de-crapped', it should almost be done. I also feel like I want to complete this myself, given the amount of time I already spent on this and given how near I am (I think) to completing it. Please keep in mind that I mainly do this for fun and for myself. As with another project which nobody seemed to make any progress with or care, I started coding it myself because I didn't feel like waiting. With this project, I learned ARM assembly and got some nice information about how my camera works. THAT is what I like about stuff like this. When you keep posting things like 'I can help test' or 'any ETA?', I get these mixed feelings. I do like that people want to use my work, stuff I put a lot of time in, but on the other hand it feels a bit pushy, I really want to decide the amount of time and when I spend on it myself.

I haven't spent any time on CHDK (except for some hacks that may potentially have harmed my camera in some way, though it still seems to be working) last week, because my room was stripped down, painted, got a new floor in it and I basically had to move my development machine somewhere else where I don't really feel comfortable coding (it just won't work). Still then, I had to do a significant amount of work so I've been busy with this all week.

For the testing: please, people. I've worked with unsupported, hacked platforms before and all the 'I can help testing' messages are really meant like 'I want it now so I can show off!'. While this might not be entirely true for CHDK (there's no Doom game in it), I still don't require anyone for testing. The cameras are identical as far as hardware is concerned and if the software differs, CHDK will likely not work at all. If I require any testing, it's from the 1.01A folks when and IF I decide to have a shot at porting it to that model.

Anyway, I still can't really make any promises but I think I can spend a good amount of time on it this week. By the way, I passed both my exams, despite some sneaky hacking :)
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« Reply #39 on: 24 / March / 2008, 19:18:00 »
Nice to hear you again and glad to know that i haven't misunderstood your feelings!
Congratulations for your exams (have you cheated?? :D ), and for all the work you're doing to complete CHDK.
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