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CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« on: 11 / December / 2012, 11:12:41 »
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Would like to use an old Intel Laptop only for CHDK Remote Capture.

From an educational or training aspect am wondering if anyone has used either VxWorks or DryOS on a Laptop.   Am even wondering if are available to public?  Did search and found 1. "VxWorks is a real-time operating system developed as proprietary software by Wind River Systems of Alameda, California, USA. First released in 1987, VxWorks is designed for use in embedded systems." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VxWorks

Sound Ideal for an Old Laptop!!!

2."DRYOS is a real-time operating system made by Canon and is used in their latest digital cameras and camcorders." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRYOS

Have searched the forum using various keywords but have not found anything yet.

Am open to all suggestions!

Thanks

Gene

Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #1 on: 11 / December / 2012, 11:55:31 »
Would like to use an old Intel Laptop only for CHDK Remote Capture.
How old ?  What O/S does it currently have ?

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From an educational or training aspect am wondering if anyone has used either VxWorks or DryOS on a Laptop.   Am even wondering if are available to public?
VxWorks is a commercial product (or at least it was).  You need licensing and dev kits etc. - none of it "free".  DryOS is proprietary to Canon and AFAIK not available to anyone else.

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Sound Ideal for an Old Laptop!!!
Depends on whether your interest is photography or working with old computers.  There are other O/S choices available that you could have a happy time porting to your old machine.  Or if its not too old ( i.e. more than 15 year or so) you can probably get Linux to run on it.
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Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #2 on: 11 / December / 2012, 15:05:43 »
waterwingz

Laptop Info How old ? ~ 12 yrs      What O/S does it currently have ? Windows ME.

Main problem is lack of memory only has 64MB.

Has CHDK been ported to DOS? 

Would like the smallest, fastest OS.

Is anyone using old versions of VxWorks?

If not what is the fastest Linux distro to use with CHDK?

Thanks

Gene

Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #3 on: 11 / December / 2012, 19:46:37 »
Laptop Info How old ? ~ 12 yrs      What O/S does it currently have ? Windows ME. Main problem is lack of memory only has 64MB.
It will run Linux.  Might also be useful for holding a door open on a windy day or keeping the papers on your desk from blowing away.

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Has CHDK been ported to DOS? 
No.  Its rumored that some of the first Canon PowerShot's ran some variant of DOS but nobody ever tried to port anything like CHDK them.  Technically,  DOS is not really an operating system - just a program loader that makes a few common I/O routines available.

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Would like the smallest, fastest OS.
I have no idea.  But the smallest & fastest that might matter to you in probably Linux.

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Is anyone using old versions of VxWorks?
Again, I have no idea.  Probably.  But not anyone that hangs around here.

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If not what is the fastest Linux distro to use with CHDK?
Look for the specialty versions - things like DSL or Puppy linux.
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Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #4 on: 11 / December / 2012, 23:16:10 »
No.  Its rumored that some of the first Canon PowerShot's ran some variant of DOS but nobody ever tried to port anything like CHDK them.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100903144402/http://rayer.ic.cz/hardware/a70.htm (Czech, but the pictures tell the story) This pre-dates CHDK of course.
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Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #5 on: 11 / December / 2012, 23:34:34 »
Laptop Info How old ? ~ 12 yrs      What O/S does it currently have ? Windows ME.

Main problem is lack of memory only has 64MB.
Why not just get something better? If you hunt around (yard sales, craigslist, thrift stores etc), I bet you can find something much more capable for very close to free. Or you could shell out $35 for a raspberry pi or a bit more for a second hand netbook or something like that.
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Has CHDK been ported to DOS? 
This question doesn't even make sense. CHDK is hack that runs on the Canon firmware. The OS is only a minor consideration, it won't work without the rest of the camera stuff there.
Don't forget what the H stands for.

Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #6 on: 12 / December / 2012, 13:40:41 »
reyalp,

"Has CHDK been ported to DOS?" Since this Laptop has hardware limitations would like to use something that takes the smallest amount of resources.

Since command line takes less resources than a GUI OS (DOS vs Windows) so hoped could run CHDK Remote Capture on it.

Gene

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Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #7 on: 12 / December / 2012, 14:59:07 »
I hope we are not talking at cross purposes here, CHDK runs on  Canon cameras, and therefore doesn't need "ported" anywhere (except more Canon cameras, as new models come out).

What would be the reason to port it to a laptop?

If you want to pay with VXWorks or dryos, for educational purposes,  hack a serial port on to an old Canon (instructions here http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/UART ) , and connect that to the old laptop, run linux on the laptop (busybox perhaps if it os a *very* old laptop) and use it as a terminal to your sandbox camera.
 
You should be able to pick up a scrap Ixus 40 for a few dollars/pounds/euros. If it has a damaged lens, it wont cost much more than the cost of postage.

If you want to run remote capture on your laptop, then it must be at least capable of running a bare bones recent Debian distro, otherwise you wont be able to run the necessary software (unless you are a real compiler masochist).

If your chosen laptop has roughly the "grunt" of a Raspberry Pi, and will run a recent Intel Debian distro, (allbeit perhaps in Command Line mode only, but a safer bet if it will run X and for example LXDE) then you *may* be in business. 
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Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #8 on: 13 / December / 2012, 00:04:52 »
Since command line takes less resources than a GUI OS (DOS vs Windows) so hoped could run CHDK Remote Capture on it.
I guess you talking about a CHDK PTP client, not CHDK? In that case, you need linux, windows or possibly (with some pain) mac or some other *nix variant.

Linux without a GUI should run OK with 64 megs of RAM, but you may still run into problems with the PTP client apps, since they aren't really designed for low memory environments.
Don't forget what the H stands for.

Re: CHDK OS Ports? Intel Processors?
« Reply #9 on: 14 / December / 2012, 11:12:58 »
reyalp "I guess you talking about a CHDK PTP client, not CHDK?"  Correct, I misspoke should have said have any
CHDK Remote Capture apps been ported to DOS.  To date have seen mention of ptpcam chdkptp and ptpCamGUI.

Any actual experience using these 3 CHDK Remote Capture apps on any OS.

Gene

 

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