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Title: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: waterwingz on 26 / July / 2011, 22:54:14
The released version of CHDK for the G10 is available from the autobuild server : CHDK Downloads (http://mighty-hoernsche.de/)

The links below are for the final beta test version - built on trunk rev 1326 but with a "special" beta test start up logo.  Not really recommended for serious use - the latest trunk builds have many new features you might want.

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Beta Release 5 :
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G10 CHDK for firmware 1.02A  : <download link to beta 5 -  obsolete code> (http://www.box.net/shared/94v0iygdezjlluss1738)
G10 CHDK for firmware 1.03B  : <download link to beta 5 -  obsolete code> (http://www.box.net/shared/233xqx0m6vv3i9f6itlg)
G10 CHDK for firmware 1.04A  : <download link to beta 5 -  obsolete code> (http://www.box.net/shared/0kaejvzyyh42tlief51v)

Note 1 : firmware 1.00F & 1.00H can be upgraded to version 1.02A via the official Canon download page. 
Note 2 : Install with the SD card lock booting method. The firmware update method is not available.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 26 / July / 2011, 22:55:28
The post above is where I will put updates to the CHDK release for the G10 as we go through beta testing.  I'll post details about each release sequentially in this thread but you will always be able to find the latest version in the first post.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : BETA 1 Release Notes
Post by: waterwingz on 26 / July / 2011, 23:03:53
BETA 1

The G10 beta test team has finished testing beta 1 so I have posted links to the download in the root of this thread.

Please be aware that this release has very limited functionality.   However,  it is a great test of your process of setting up an SD card for CHDK and getting it running.

Random notes for this release :

1) The release supports "SD card lock" booting only.  There is no ps.fi2 file for the "firmware update" method.

2) The release should do the following on startup :
      i) blink the Blue LED under the Shortcut/Print Share button and then.
     ii) blink the Green LED under the power button and then
     iii) start the normal Canon boot process but with the CHDK logo on the screen
     iv) show some OSD information
      v) blink the Green power LED every 2 seconds

3) None of the shooting functions or movie manual zoom are running yet

4) Press the Shortcut / Print Share button to get <ALT> mode (text on bottom of screen).  Then press Menu to get CHDK menus

5) Press the shutter button in <ALT> mode and the default script should run.

For those of you with 1.00F and 1.00H,  I don't plan to support those versions.  Please use the Canon firmware update for the G10 if you want to run CHDK - it will get you to release 1.02A

Thank you to all the testers who tried the first release and reported back.  Links to beta 2 have been sent to each of you.

Note that the 1.03B version has not been tested.  Three testers downloaded the version but did not report back. Until I see some interest in that version there will be no further updates for the 1.03B.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: m0nk3y on 27 / July / 2011, 16:19:45
Great work, Waterwingz!

I'm excited to get back into playing with CHDK on my G10, after having incredible success with my dearly departed SD750 (thanks to CHDK, it took 60K photos!).

Although based on how early of a release this is so far it may be unnecessary, I was wondering if and where you'd like feedback? Are you using the CHDK Mantis?

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: JK4U on 27 / July / 2011, 17:56:05
1.03B - step "i" of the "supposed to do"-list happens, then crash and deadness until batt is removed.
Blue blink and over with :(
Waiting for feedback...
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 27 / July / 2011, 19:20:53
1.03B - step "i" of the "supposed to do"-list happens, then crash and deadness until batt is removed.
Blue blink and over with :(
Waiting for feedback...

This is the second report on version 1.03B - both reporting failure after the blue print lamp blinks.

Sigh - I  had hoped to get feedback on the 1.03B prior to posting publicly in case it would not boot.  The 1.02A and 1.04A boot properly.  I"ll take a look - the test team has reported a couple of issues with the beta 2 release for the 1.04A as well so this might take a little while.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: matto on 27 / July / 2011, 19:34:22
Thank you for the great work -
Beta 1 works as expected with version 1.04A!
Cheers
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 27 / July / 2011, 20:18:56
1.03B - step "i" of the "supposed to do"-list happens, then crash and deadness until batt is removed.
Blue blink and over with :(
Waiting for feedback...

Found the problem, I think.  Updated the link at the start of this thread.  Take a look and let me know ?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 27 / July / 2011, 22:08:39
Although based on how early of a release this is so far it may be unnecessary, I was wondering if and where you'd like feedback? Are you using the CHDK Mantis?
Send me a PM with your firmware version and a real email address and I will add you to the Beta test team.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: JK4U on 28 / July / 2011, 11:14:30
Working like a charm! Beta v2 is on and running, now playing through my three batteries to c what I can find :] Ill let u know! Uh, and BTW: MYHEROSCRIPTER!!! Yes, you are!
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 28 / July / 2011, 12:51:12
Working like a charm! Beta v2 is on and running, now playing through my three batteries to c what I can find :] Ill let u know! Uh, and BTW: MYHEROSCRIPTER!!! Yes, you are!

@JK4U : Would you mind also downloading Beta V1a for your 1.03B firmware (the one published at the start of this thread http://www.box.net/shared/1949jy2cg6gj3u6gdxvx (http://www.box.net/shared/1949jy2cg6gj3u6gdxvx)) and verifying that it will load,  display the logo and allow you to navigate the menus ?

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: JK4U on 29 / July / 2011, 03:55:14
Working like a charm! Beta v2 is on and running, now playing through my three batteries to c what I can find :] Ill let u know! Uh, and BTW: MYHEROSCRIPTER!!! Yes, you are!

@JK4U : Would you mind also downloading Beta V1a for your 1.03B firmware (the one published at the start of this thread http://www.box.net/shared/1949jy2cg6gj3u6gdxvx (http://www.box.net/shared/1949jy2cg6gj3u6gdxvx)) and verifying that it will load,  display the logo and allow you to navigate the menus ?



Sorry - didnt inform you: Works and starts, just seems to be slower (???) than V2 - any reason this could be? Start-up time is up to 4 seconds sometimes... V2 is just under two - not as fast as the canon f/w, but quick enough.
Any idea about the sudden shutdown when the play button is pressed? Tried the debug messages, but they diappear as soon as I try to reproduce the error - perhaps a live-output on a PC (via USB conn) could shine light on it...?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 29 / July / 2011, 19:56:31
Any idea about the sudden shutdown when the play button is pressed? Tried the debug messages, but they diappear as soon as I try to reproduce the error - perhaps a live-output on a PC (via USB conn) could shine light on it...?
Depends on when you press the play button I guess.   It functions as a power on/off button so pressing it when in play mode will shut down the camera.  That is normal.

Also, you mentioned at one point that your ran a script prior the play button causing a shutdown.  Depending on what was in your script,  it might have been trying to do things that are not enabled yet and behaviour after that is anyones guess.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 30 / July / 2011, 00:20:01
Beta2
Note : if you are new to CHDK,  please read this wiki posting on preparing your SD card : http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card)

The G10 beta test team has finished testing beta release 2 of CHDK for the G10. I have posted links to the download in the root of this thread.

Please be aware that this release still has very limited functionality.  

Random notes for this second release :

1) As with Beta 1, this release supports "SD card lock" booting only.  There is no ps.fi2 file for the "firmware update" method.  There is no need to report this fact.

2) Mechanical zoom now works in video mode.  However, your G10 may choose to respond to zoom requests with digital zoom first.  When this does or does not happen is not well understood at this point.  Feedback on this question is encouraged.

3) Did I mention that the release supports "SD card lock" booting only.  There is no ps.fi2 file for the "firmware update" method.   

4) You can start the camera in "SD Card Lock"  mode with the battery bay door open.

5) You can start the camera directely into "shoot" mode by holding down the On/Off button for more than 1.5 seconds.

6) Oh, and this release supports "SD card lock" booting only.  There is no ps.fi2 file for the "firmware update" method.   

7) The release should do the following on startup :
      i) blink the Blue LED under the Shortcut/Print Share button and then.
     ii) blink the Green LED under the power button and then
     iii) start the normal Canon boot process but with the CHDK logo on the screen
     iv) show some OSD information
      v) blink the Green power LED every 2 seconds

8) Press the Shortcut / Print Share button to get <ALT> mode (text on bottom of screen).  Then press Menu to get CHDK menus

9) Press the shutter button in <ALT> mode and the default script should run.  If you load additional scripts, they may try to call functions that I have not implemented yet.  Strange camera operation at this point is to be expected.  Please do not feel the need to report that.

10) The default position of the OSD display icons can be edited in the OSD menus.  IF they overlap things in the Canon display, feel free to move them.

11) Sorry, but the release supports "SD card lock" booting only.  There is no ps.fi2 file for the "firmware update" method.  

12) None of the shooting functions are running yet.  The menus might let you enter a shutter time of 1/5000 of a second, but your camera will not take pictures at that speed.

13) Video quality settings should work - or at least it does not cause crashes.  We have limited reports about it having any effect at all though.

14) Finally,  as a special bonus,  with thanks to philmoz,  CHDK menus should no longer dissappear when the background changes when the camera is in "shoot" mode !!!

Thank you to all the testers who tried the first two releases and reported back.  Links to the pre-release of beta 3  will be sent to each of you as soon as it is ready.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 30 / July / 2011, 15:42:51
Updated the beta 2 release for firmware 1.04A - found a problem with recording movies that caused the camera to shut down.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: matto on 31 / July / 2011, 00:03:39
thank you for the ongoing support..

re: 1.04A Beta 2c

everything seem to work although..

-can not start in "playback" mode ( blue light -> on/off light-> powershot screen-> green light-> shutdown)
-can not switch from "shoot" mode to "playback" mode (camera shuts down + lens does not retract)
-lens does not retract on shutdown (when pressing on/off)
-lens subsequently retracts by pressing either "playback" or "on/off" (then promptly shuts down)

cheers

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / July / 2011, 00:14:08
-can not start in "playback" mode ( blue light -> on/off light-> powershot screen-> green light-> shutdown)
-can not switch from "shoot" mode to "playback" mode (camera shuts down + lens does not retract)
-lens does not retract on shutdown (when pressing on/off)

Thanks matto.  This is different than the 1.02A,  which works correctly in these mode.  Your detailed description gives me something to look fo.

I would be very interested to hear from any 1.03B owners about how their cameras work under these test conditions.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: SiddharthMenon on 31 / July / 2011, 01:15:38
Wow this is good news, finally we have support for G10 :)

Thanks waterwingz , I don't have my G10 with me today, will get it back in 2days ;) I am really excited to test it.

Btw is it possible to upgrade from 1.02A to 1.04A ?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: vicentvalentia on 31 / July / 2011, 08:16:36
time lapse for the camera for CHDK firmware 1.02A G10?.

thanks
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / July / 2011, 10:08:05
Btw is it possible to upgrade from 1.02A to 1.04A ?
As far as I know,  Canon has not made the necessary file available to do that.  Only owners of cameras with firmware 1.00f and 1.00h have an upgrade option - to 1.02A.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / July / 2011, 10:09:06
time lapse for the camera for CHDK firmware 1.02A G10?.
This will be possible using scripts once the porting process is complete.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / July / 2011, 11:37:45
Beta 1 works as expected with version 1.04A!

re: 1.04A Beta 2c

everything seem to work although..
-can not start in "playback" mode ( blue light -> on/off light-> powershot screen-> green light-> shutdown)
-can not switch from "shoot" mode to "playback" mode (camera shuts down + lens does not retract)
-lens does not retract on shutdown (when pressing on/off)
-lens subsequently retracts by pressing either "playback" or "on/off" (then promptly shuts down)

@matto :  did you experience the same behavior with beta1 as with beta 2 ?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: vicentvalentia on 31 / July / 2011, 12:55:29
time lapse for the camera for CHDK firmware 1.02A G10?.
This will be possible using scripts once the porting process is complete.

thank you very much
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: dogbert74 on 31 / July / 2011, 17:11:02
Hi All,

I've performed the same tests as Matto with my G10 (1.03B with CHDK Beta2b).
-Starting in playback mode is working
-I'm able to swtich from playback to shooting mode and back to playback with no problem at all
-Lens retract correctly if I shut down or when I switch to playback mode.

I've found a different problem in my version. When I swtich on the camera in shooting mode (pressing the on/off switch) it start in playback mode. I've to half-press my the shutter button to switch it to shooting mode.
P.s. Waterwings, with Beta2B have you removed the function to start the camera without CHDK by holding for 2-3 sec the on-off button ?

I'm also trying the same configuration with 2 different SD card:
1) 4 gbyte SD card formatted in FAT16 and made bootable
1) 16 gbyte SD card partitioned wth sdminste.exe program (as CHDK faq) with a 2mb chdk partion (fat2?!?) and one fat32 partition for the rest of the card (I found this restriction AWFUL because it's not very practical to download the photo)

When I use the 16gb card I cant' see the chdk logo during startup (but that is only a nuisance)

Thanks,
Riccardo
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / July / 2011, 17:18:00
I've found a different problem in my version. When I swtich on the camera in shooting mode (pressing the on/off switch) it start in playback mode. I've to half-press my the shutter button to switch it to shooting mode.
Try holding the On/Off button down for 2-3 seconds.  When you press it quickly,  it goes into Playback mode - if you hold it down to start the camera is should go into shooting mode.

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P.s. Waterwings, with Beta2B have you removed the function to start the camera without CHDK by holding for 2-3 sec the on-off button ?
As far as I know,  there never was such a function or mode.  So I'm pretty sure that I did not remove it.

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When I use the 16gb card I cant' see the chdk logo during startup (but that is only a nuisance)
Which partition did you copy the CHDK files to ?  I think they basically need to be in both - the logo is read from a file and when the partitions swap,  it can't find the right file.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / July / 2011, 17:25:04
-can not start in "playback" mode ( blue light -> on/off light-> powershot screen-> green light-> shutdown)
-can not switch from "shoot" mode to "playback" mode (camera shuts down + lens does not retract)
-lens does not retract on shutdown (when pressing on/off)
I've built a special version of beta 2 for firmware 1.04A.    In this version, when you press the playback [>] button the camera should start in playback.  If you press the On/Off button quickly, the camera also starts in playback.  Holding the On/Off button down will not start the camera at all.   If you want to enter shooting mode,  half press the shutter when the camera is in playback mode.  To shutdown the camera in payback mode,   press either the playback button [>] or the On/Off switch.  To shutdown the camera if the lens is extended,   you can only use the On/Off button.

download link :  G10 Beta 2c special for firmware 1.04a (http://www.box.net/shared/90kqpag458s0xiisdslk)

Let me know how that works out ?



Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: matto on 31 / July / 2011, 22:52:49

@matto :  did you experience the same behavior with beta1 as with beta 2 ?


No problem with Beta1, behaving as expected..

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G10 Beta 2c special for firmware 1.04a

Let me know how that works out ?

..not much luck i'm afraid:
-on/off  (blue light->on/off light ->powershot screen -> shut down)
-[>]      (blue light->on/off light ->powershot screen -> shut down)

cheers


Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / July / 2011, 23:04:42
No problem with Beta1, behaving as expected..
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G10 Beta 2c special for firmware 1.04a
..not much luck i'm afraid:
-on/off  (blue light->on/off light ->powershot screen -> shut down)
-[>]      (blue light->on/off light ->powershot screen -> shut down)

So beta 2c special does not allow you to startup at all in CHDK mode?  Strange,  as it basically the same as beta 1 but with the movie_record task enabled.

And if I re-read your earlier comment about beta 2c,  the only CHDK mode you can use is shooting mode ?

UPDATE : Please excuse my asking this, but is there any chance you are using the wrong firmware version ?

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: matto on 01 / August / 2011, 03:48:44

And if I re-read your earlier comment about beta 2c,  the only CHDK mode you can use is shooting mode ?

UPDATE : Please excuse my asking this, but is there any chance you are using the wrong firmware version ?

no problem at all, thou defiantly version GM1.04A..

The problem seems to be something to do with partitions on the SD card?

Have been using a 16GB partitioned Card ( fat16 / fat32) (diskboot.bin in fat16 and CHDK folder in both)..

But.. with another 2GB SD card (fat16) and NO partition.. ALL 1.04A versions work as expected!

sorry i didn't try this before.. must be missing a step with the partitioning?

Cheers






Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 01 / August / 2011, 20:15:43
The problem seems to be something to do with partitions on the SD card?

Have been using a 16GB partitioned Card ( fat16 / fat32) (diskboot.bin in fat16 and CHDK folder in both)..

But.. with another 2GB SD card (fat16) and NO partition.. ALL 1.04A versions work as expected!

@matto :  this could be an important clue.  I have an 8G card that I will setup with dual partitions and experiment with my 1.02A camera.   Has anyone else tried these beta's on a dual partition card ?


Update :    dual partitions seem to be fine with 1.02A.  Any feedback on other versions ?


Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 02 / August / 2011, 00:21:45
On a positive note,  beta tester dan4307 was looking at the "video quality" setting capability of CHDK on the G10-1.02A and taught me that you can change this while actually making a video !   

I just had to try it and here's a really amateur video of my keyboard as I change video quality from 80 to 5 and back to 80.  Watch the letters on the keyboard (especially the letter N) and the ones above the LED's in the center of the keyboard split.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYWwTY1MTH4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYWwTY1MTH4#)

This looked much better prior to the YouTube upload process but I won't be quitting my day job to product videos any time soon.    I think we can agree that this CHDK feature works on the G10 !   Thnks dan4307 !
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: JK4U on 02 / August / 2011, 14:11:23
Any idea about the sudden shutdown when the play button is pressed? Tried the debug messages, but they diappear as soon as I try to reproduce the error - perhaps a live-output on a PC (via USB conn) could shine light on it...?
Depends on when you press the play button I guess.   It functions as a power on/off button so pressing it when in play mode will shut down the camera.  That is normal.

Also, you mentioned at one point that your ran a script prior the play button causing a shutdown.  Depending on what was in your script,  it might have been trying to do things that are not enabled yet and behaviour after that is anyones guess.


The play button makes the camera shut down as if the batt has been removed - suddenly and fully. Only the on/off makes it come back to life, but often the cam shuts down without even starting the screen, right after the beep. Happens when play is pressed after a picture has been taken - review function. The script was the standard script - no specific one that had been loaded.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 02 / August / 2011, 20:18:54
News for August 2nd

1) dogbert74  has been doing quite a bit of successful testing with this G10 1.03B.  Today he seems to have ended up with the dreaded lens error.  Its not clear if this related to testing CHDK - he had put the camera away in his backpack working and when he took it back out 30 minutes later the camera would no longer start.

2) I have all the CHDK tasks running on my 1.02A version !! I've been playing successfully with flash and shutter overrides.  CHDK RAW does not work though - the camera hangs - so I need to work on that.  This phase of the testing may take a while (I'm on vacation next week) and I don't plan to post another public beta until the version on my camera has shown to be stable and the beta test team has tried it out too.

3) Still getting reports of problems with the 1.04A having strange behavior with the On/Off and [>] Playback button.  Some users report no problems,  others are having serious issues.  Tester matto reported problems with a 16G dual partition card that went away when he switched to a 2G single partition card.   I'm going to try to get the 1.02A stable before I worry about what might be wrong with the 1.04A version - the code looks really clean and comparable to the 1.02A.



Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 03 / August / 2011, 11:24:16
I think I need a bit of help. I have 1.02A, got the Beta2b, unarchived on the card, but cannot get to the "Firm Update". I tried with the card locked and not, with the door open and closed, pressing twice the Play button, with lenses open and closed...
I tried with two cards, both unpartitioned.
What I'm missing?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 03 / August / 2011, 11:40:16
What I'm missing?
Please carefully read all the way through this post :  Instructions for Beta 2 Release  (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=6687.msg71087#msg71087)

I think that should explain it.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: Lebeau on 03 / August / 2011, 12:17:56
Bonjour waterwingz,

Just try beta2 on my brother's G10 1.04A. Start very well (using play then trigger), functional menus and OSD display.

He expect to use motion detection and lua scripts.

Will follow this thread ... Good job !
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 03 / August / 2011, 12:31:19
Start very well (using play then trigger), functional menus and OSD display.
Salut M. Lebeau.

You should also be able to start the G10 directly into shooting mode by holding down the On/Off button for 2 seconds.

It will be a little while longer before your brother can play with scripts and motion detection.  I have everything running now for firmware 1.02A but unfortunately firmware 1.04A is giving me problems.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: jgschmidt on 04 / August / 2011, 17:55:28
Hi,

I have a G10, firmware 1.03B. I formatted a 2GB card in the camera and loaded the beta2b files onto the card.
I can get the version information but can not get CHDK to load. I saw notes about booting from "SD Card Lock" only. How do I do that?

I tried starting the camera with the battery door open but neither the regular power or replay buttons will start the camera if the door is open.

Also, is there a way to upgrade this model to the 1.04a firmware?

I have been running CHDK satisfactorily on my SD300 so this is not my first time using CHDK. I just got the G10 and will eventually want the same features.

Thanks.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 04 / August / 2011, 18:24:58
I saw notes about booting from "SD Card Lock" only. How do I do that?
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card)

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I tried starting the camera with the battery door open but neither the regular power or replay buttons will start the camera if the door is open.
The ability to start with the battery door open is a feature only available when using "SD Card Lock" boot method.  Note :  not every CHDK port supports this either.

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Also, is there a way to upgrade this model to the 1.04a firmware?
Short answer = no.  But there is no need to upgrade anyway.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: jgschmidt on 04 / August / 2011, 18:43:50
Thanks. I'm booting to CHDK now.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: petriov on 06 / August / 2011, 08:59:05
Hi there, great Job Waterwingz,
Beta2 works as expected on Firmware 1.03B, i'll be watching this thread from now on :)
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: RayC on 10 / August / 2011, 00:48:06
My version of G10 is G10-1.04A, and the version I tested is beta 2C.

I just test the function "Video Parameter", Enable [Video Quality Control?], enable [Enable optical zoom], and then set the AF Key as [Shutter].
When I record video, it works great! When I change location or distance, adjust the focus, I can re-focus by press shutter lightly.

When I test [Extra Photo Operations], the [Override shutter speed] and [value factor] or [shutterspeed enum type] seems useless. For example, I can see there is [TV:200] in live view, but when I press shutter, the [TV:200] become existing shutter setting such as [TV:15]. When I take photo, the shutter time
 is 15 seconds. The shutterspeed override setting seems can't work at all.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 10 / August / 2011, 07:07:58
My version of G10 is G10-1.04A, and the version I tested is beta 2C.
I just test the function "Video Parameter", Enable [Video Quality Control?], enable [Enable optical zoom], and then set the AF Key as [Shutter].
When I record video, it works great! When I change location or distance, adjust the focus, I can re-focus by press shutter lightly.
Thanks for the update - I'm glad to hear CHDK video is working well on the 1.04A release of Beta2.   Reports from owners of cameras with firmware 1.02A are similiar.

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When I test [Extra Photo Operations], the [Override shutter speed] and [value factor] or [shutterspeed enum type] seems useless. For example, I can see there is [TV:200] in live view, but when I press shutter, the [TV:200] become existing shutter setting such as [TV:15]. When I take photo, the shutter time
 is 15 seconds. The shutterspeed override setting seems can't work at all.
This is not a surprise. Per the  <link to beta release note>  (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=6687.msg71087#msg71087) from earlier in this thread :

   12) None of the shooting functions are running yet.  The menus might let you enter a shutter time of 1/5000 of a second, but your camera will not take pictures at that speed.

The beta test team is working on beta version 3 and things are starting to look a lot better there.  Send me a PM with a real email address if you'd like to join that team.


Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: RayC on 10 / August / 2011, 08:43:12
This is not a surprise. Per the  <link to beta release note>  (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=6687.msg71087#msg71087) from earlier in this thread :

   12) None of the shooting functions are running yet.  The menus might let you enter a shutter time of 1/5000 of a second, but your camera will not take pictures at that speed.

The beta test team is working on beta version 3 and things are starting to look a lot better there.  Send me a PM with a real email address if you'd like to join that team.

I saw that the note 14 is "CHDK menus should no longer disappear when the background changes when the camera is in "shoot" mode", but sometimes I met same issue during my test....
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 10 / August / 2011, 10:38:52
I saw that the note 14 is "CHDK menus should no longer disappear when the background changes when the camera is in "shoot" mode", but sometimes I met same issue during my test....
I've seen the same on occasion.   But trust me,  its much better than it used to be !

UPDATE : Looks like the menu fix did not make it into all the beta 2 versions.  It will be there shortly in Beta 3 - sorry.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: m0nk3y on 15 / August / 2011, 13:36:36
Still typing w/ one hand thanks to a broken collarbone last week, but I can't help but to report I'm having extremely exciting results with beta 3! (more detailed feedback when my wpm improves  :) )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaAKVhLUuv8# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaAKVhLUuv8#)

And a slightly more interesting TL I did today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzXFsQ5KUz4# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzXFsQ5KUz4#)

Also, an old version of the motion detection script I had from my old SD750's days works great. I have "MDFB-080914.bas" which looking at that filename makes me think that by old, i mean ancient.

Waterwingz, you are a great hero to G10 owners!!  :D
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 15 / August / 2011, 19:46:22
Still typing w/ one hand thanks to a broken collarbone last week, but I can't help but to report I'm having extremely exciting results with beta 3! (more detailed feedback when my wpm improves  :) )
As a point of clarification,  beta 3 has only been released to the members of the CHDK G10 beta test team. My goal, as always, is to have each release stable for all firmware versions with only a short list of known bugs prior to making it generally available.

At this point, beta 3 only needs CHDK RAW fixed (it shuts down the camera when used and does not store anything) and it needs scaling for Zebra and Edgeoverlay fixed.  Both need a little of my time and then I should be read for a more general release.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: hanibal on 20 / August / 2011, 02:21:50
Hey guys, thanks for your hard work! ^^ I have some question, because I'm the newbie here
1- I have Canon G10 with firmware 1.0.2, could I use CHDK version for firmware 1.0.4?
2- Could I update firmware to 1.0.4 then use CHDK version for firmware 1.0.4? Then how could i find that firmwares?

Wish to receive your replies soon!

Thanks in advance ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 20 / August / 2011, 02:46:21
1- I have Canon G10 with firmware 1.0.2, could I use CHDK version for firmware 1.0.4?
I assume you mean that your have firmware 1.02A ?  If so, you need to use the CHDK version for firmware 1.02A. The CHDK version must match your camera version or it will not work.

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2- Could I update firmware to 1.0.4 then use CHDK version for firmware 1.0.4? Then how could i find that firmwares?
No - Canon does not provide a update for the G10 to convert from 1.02A to 1.04A.  Just use your 1.02A camera with CHDK for the 1.02A.  I do not believe that you will ever know the difference.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: hanibal on 20 / August / 2011, 08:36:51
Thanks waterwingz for your fast reply.
I've downloaded and unzip the CHDK version match with my 1.02A.
Then I copied all files into my SD Card.
But when I turn on my G10 by PLAYBACK MODE then press MENU, I could NOT find the "FIRMWARE UPDATE" function! +_+.  Also tried to press Playback button twice, but nothing happened.

What should I do?

Thanks ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 20 / August / 2011, 11:06:17
What should I do?
In the very first post of this forum thread, the one where you found your download link  <clink here> (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=6687),   there is a note on the first line with some very good advice.   Take a look at that note,  follow the link posted there and pay particular attention to what is posted on lines 1, 3, 6, & 11.  The information in italics at the start of that posting should be helpful too. 
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: olf on 20 / August / 2011, 21:35:28
Just a quick question to the beta testers: When you want to shoot RAW (DNG) in CHDK, the badpixel.bin file is created on the card.
After this procedure, CHDK will tell you how many bad pixels it has found.

How many bad pixels do you have?

Would you please be so kind to post your numbers?
My count is 8400, and I would like to have a comparison. Thanks.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 20 / August / 2011, 21:46:49
How many bad pixels do you have?
I get a different number each time but its around 3000.    Do I win a prize ?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: olf on 20 / August / 2011, 21:55:56
Certainly. You make me jealous ;)
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 20 / August / 2011, 21:59:14
Certainly. You make me jealous ;)
Across 15M pixels,  the difference is irrelevant.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: olf on 20 / August / 2011, 22:08:08
Yes, probably. But I have two bright pixels next to each other, and none of my RAW editors would remove them automatically. That's quite annoying.

Did you get my email from 15 minutes ago about g10-104a-BETA-3c?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 20 / August / 2011, 22:11:08
Did you get my email from 15 minutes ago about g10-104a-BETA-3c?
Yes - response already sent.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: hanibal on 21 / August / 2011, 08:34:00
What should I do?
In the very first post of this forum thread, the one where you found your download link  <clink here> (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=6687),   there is a note on the first line with some very good advice.   Take a look at that note,  follow the link posted there and pay particular attention to what is posted on lines 1, 3, 6, & 11.  The information in italics at the start of that posting should be helpful too.  

Thanks for your reply, but I'm so amateur and my English is too bad. I don't know what is the "SD Card Lock" booting only? How to active that mode? And how to start CHDK mode? I'm using 4Gb SD Card at Fat32, should I format it to Fat16?

So sorry again for wasting your time with many stupid questions! :(
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 21 / August / 2011, 08:46:59
Hi hanibal,

I'm also new in the CHDK thing, but maybe I can help.
I'm on a Mac, so I used SDMinst to prepare the card; if you're on Windows, I suppose this is doing the same thing: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK/Installing_with_Cardtricks (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK/Installing_with_Cardtricks)
After doing the two partitions, put the extracted files from the zip on the first partition (the small one), then lock the card with the small lock switch on the card itself.
Then you're good to go.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: hanibal on 21 / August / 2011, 09:06:01
Hi hanibal,

I'm also new in the CHDK thing, but maybe I can help.
I'm on a Mac, so I used SDMinst to prepare the card; if you're on Windows, I suppose this is doing the same thing: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK/Installing_with_Cardtricks (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK/Installing_with_Cardtricks)
After doing the two partitions, put the extracted files from the zip on the first partition (the small one), then lock the card with the small lock switch on the card itself.
Then you're good to go.

Many thanks altero!
I'm using Mac, too. And I will follow your suggestion then show you my result.
Have a nice day! ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 21 / August / 2011, 09:54:27
Thanks for your reply, but I'm so amateur and my English is too bad. I don't know what is the "SD Card Lock" booting only? How to active that mode? And how to start CHDK mode? I'm using 4Gb SD Card at Fat32, should I format it to Fat16?
Again,  you really should take a look at the explanation about SD card booting that I posted the link for.  I will not simply retype that information here :  http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card)

To answer your question,  you should format your 4G card as FAT16.  You do not need to create two partitions as suggested by  altero unless your card is bigger than 4G ( i.e. 8G, 16G etc ).   And you can use the SDMinst.exe or CardTricks.exe from Windows - I prefer SDMinst.exe.  The instructions are also availabel at the link I reposted here.

Update : There is a lot to learn about CHDK.  You can ask questions here on the forum,  but it might help you ask better questions that will get you good answers  if you can read some of these guides - google translate might help ?

http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_for_Dummies (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_for_Dummies)
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/File:CHDK_Installation_Guide.pdf (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/File:CHDK_Installation_Guide.pdf)
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_User_Manual (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_User_Manual)
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Downloads (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Downloads)

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 21 / August / 2011, 11:35:00
How many bad pixels do you have?

Would you please be so kind to post your numbers?
My count is 8400, and I would like to have a comparison. Thanks.
On my first try, without knowing what to do, I got about 3000.
Then, I disabled the flash and put the camera on a stable surface, and I got 10105 bad pixels. Might look a lot, but it really means about 0,067%.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: hanibal on 21 / August / 2011, 12:34:59
Thanks for your reply, but I'm so amateur and my English is too bad. I don't know what is the "SD Card Lock" booting only? How to active that mode? And how to start CHDK mode? I'm using 4Gb SD Card at Fat32, should I format it to Fat16?
Again,  you really should take a look at the explanation about SD card booting that I posted the link for.  I will not simply retype that information here :  http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card)

To answer your question,  you should format your 4G card as FAT16.  You do not need to create two partitions as suggested by  altero unless your card is bigger than 4G ( i.e. 8G, 16G etc ).   And you can use the SDMinst.exe or CardTricks.exe from Windows - I prefer SDMinst.exe.  The instructions are also availabel at the link I reposted here.

Update : There is a lot to learn about CHDK.  You can ask questions here on the forum,  but it might help you ask better questions that will get you good answers  if you can read some of these guides - google translate might help ?

http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_for_Dummies (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_for_Dummies)
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/File:CHDK_Installation_Guide.pdf (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/File:CHDK_Installation_Guide.pdf)
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_User_Manual (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK_User_Manual)
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Downloads (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Downloads)



Thanks waterwingz & altero, I've got it, already! ^^
Now, it's time to test CHDK!
Wish our CHDK version will became a final version soon!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release 3 with complete CHDK functionality
Post by: waterwingz on 24 / August / 2011, 23:50:19
Beta3 : Fully Functional CHDK for the Canon G10

The G10 beta test team has finished testing beta release 3 of CHDK for the G10. There are links to the downloads in the first post of this thread at :

 Beta 3 Download Post (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=6687.msg70884#msg70884)

This release has full CHDK functionality except where noted below.

Notes for this third release :

1) CHDK RAW & DNG formats are fully supported.  But if you have Canon RAW mode enable,  CHDK will disable its RAW & DNG formats. Also, before you post here that you cannot open the CHDK RAW files,  please read this : Wiki page about CHDK Raw (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Raw) and this Forum Thread about CHDK RAW (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=1532.0)

2) Motion detect scripts will work but fast motion detection is not yet enabled.

3) A list of know bugs can be found here : G10 CHDK Beta Test Bug List (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoneohrr2KUBdHVEYkNQTUFsdVhVQ2VaUVpEejVQQ3c&hl=en_US)

4) This beta version only supports the "SD card lock" boot method.  The "firmware update" method is not available. If you are new to CHDK,  please read this wiki posting about preparing your SD card : http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card)

Thank you to all the testers who tried the first three releases and reported back.  Particular thanks to knonaka, altero, JK4U, RayC, olf, Iormangund, lightfusegetaway and especially Ian for your detailed beta test reports.


Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: hanibal on 25 / August / 2011, 04:13:00
Beta3 : Fully Functional CHDK for the Canon G10

The G10 beta test team has finished testing beta release 3 of CHDK for the G10. There are links to the downloads in the first post of this thread at Beta 3 Download Post (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=6687.msg70884#msg70884)

This release has full CHDK functionality except where noted below.

Notes for this third release :

1) CHDK RAW & DNG formats are fully supported.  But if you have Canon RAW mode enable,  CHDK will disable its RAW & DNG formats. Also, before you post here that you cannot open the CHDK RAW files,  please read this : Wiki page about CHDK Raw (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Raw) and this Forum Thread about CHDK RAW (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=1532.0)

2) Motion detect scripts will work but fast motion detection is not yet enabled.

3) A list of know bugs can be found here : G10 CHDK Beta Test Bug List (https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoneohrr2KUBdHVEYkNQTUFsdVhVQ2VaUVpEejVQQ3c&hl=en_US)

4) This beta version only supports the "SD card lock" boot method.  The "firmware update" method is not available. If you are new to CHDK,  please read this wiki posting about preparing your SD card : http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card)

Thank you to all the testers who tried the first three releases and reported back.  Particular thanks to knonaka, altero, JK4U, RayC, olf, Iormangund, lightfusegetaway and especially Ian for your detailed beta test reports.




waterwingz, you're awesome! ^^
Thank you so much for your nice working! ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 27 / August / 2011, 00:12:04
55 downloads so far now that this is public - 1 comment (thanks hanibal)

feedback make these projects go - what works and what doesn't ....  (beta test team was great though - thanks to the crew)
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: matto on 27 / August / 2011, 04:05:45
amazing work waterwingz, truly appreciate your hard work.. and commitment to the g10! took a little while for me to work out you need to be out of <alt> mode in order for settings to take effect.. but that just meant reading the manual! (page 6!) i knew it would be something stupid and didn't dare ask..
now its up and running i'm happy to report all is working perfectly as expected..
thanks again.. you rock!
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: Fozzy Vis on 27 / August / 2011, 04:47:37
Same here, a big thanks to Waterwingz. Have been regulary checking the chdk boards for over a year now hoping for a development like this...
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: hanibal on 27 / August / 2011, 10:01:26
Keep going, guys! ^^
I wish I have enough photographer's skills to test our project! ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: NTwoO on 27 / August / 2011, 13:35:17
Thanks so much for the port! I'll play a bit with it and if I find anything that is not on the buglist, it will be reported.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: dogpole on 27 / August / 2011, 13:47:17
55 downloads so far now that this is public - 1 comment (thanks hanibal)

feedback make these projects go - what works and what doesn't ....  (beta test team was great though - thanks to the crew)

I've been lurking on this forum for a year or so now hoping the G10 would be added to the list. I'm too thick to offer any useful help but greatly appreciate all the time and effort put into this project by waterwingz. A massive thanks. I have a load of questions but think I should do a bit more reading on the subject and experiment first before making myself look a right wally.
Cheers
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 27 / August / 2011, 15:26:49
I have a load of questions but think I should do a bit more reading on the subject and experiment first before making myself look a right wally.

Go to http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK) and scroll down to the Basic Articles section.  Lots of good introductary stuff there.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 27 / August / 2011, 16:09:07
I have something to ask, and I don't think it's a bug (or it is?):
- Canon RAW deactivated;
- CHDK RAW activated;
- save as DNG (it saves as DNG);
- when I scroll in File Browser, I select the DNGs with RIGHT (sometimes the DNGs gets yellow, sometimes - red);
- with the DNGs selected, I do LEFT and select RAW Average;
- sometimes I get a progress bar, and for each RAW I get a WAV; sometimes, no progress bar at all.

I was thinking that the Average thing will do one image from all the RAWs selected, as explained in the Manual (CHDK_UserGuide_April_2009A4.pdf), but even when I get the progress bar, the result is one file for each RAW. All the RAWs are done one by one (not burst), same subject, from a stable surface.

So:
- why sometimes the files are selected as yellow, and sometimes as red?
- why sometimes I get the progress bar, othertimes not?
- why the Average is not working?

If it's not a bug, maybe somebody more experienced can tell me what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks!
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: reyalp on 27 / August / 2011, 16:44:39
raw operations do not work on DNG, only pure chdk raw.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 27 / August / 2011, 17:15:31
Thank you reyalp, I got one WAV from 5 CRWs.
Now I have to figure how to open that WAV (I'm on Mac).
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: reyalp on 27 / August / 2011, 17:25:28
Thank you reyalp, I got one WAV from 5 CRWs.
Now I have to figure how to open that WAV (I'm on Mac).
The WAV is not an actual WAV, it's in the same format as the CRWs. The it's just an extension that is used so it doesn't conflict with other files. CRW is also  *not* the actual Canon CRW format, it's just a dump of the framebuffer: http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Raw (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Raw)

You can use 'raw develop' in camera to create a jpeg from the merged raw.

Some software (dcraw and derivatives like ufraw, rawtherapee etc) may understand the CHDK raw, but this depends on the particular camera.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 27 / August / 2011, 17:33:49
Some software (dcraw and derivatives like ufraw, rawtherapee etc) may understand the CHDK raw, but this depends on the particular camera.
As I don't believe anyone would have submittted anything from the brand new G10 CHDK port to the dcraw person,  it seems unlikely anything will open it yet.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: reyalp on 27 / August / 2011, 17:39:22
Some software (dcraw and derivatives like ufraw, rawtherapee etc) may understand the CHDK raw, but this depends on the particular camera.
As I don't believe anyone would have submittted anything from the brand new G10 CHDK port to the dcraw person,  it seems unlikely anything will open it yet.
Sometimes the sensor layout is identical to an already supported camera.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 27 / August / 2011, 18:27:59
Sometimes the sensor layout is identical to an already supported camera.

but if CHDK RAW is just a dump of the sensor image (no format info to tell you rows & columns for example) then how can it tell ?

Update : Thinking some more, I guess the likelihood of two sensors creating exactly the same size RAW image but having different numbers of rows and columns is pretty low.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 28 / August / 2011, 07:29:00
You can use 'raw develop' in camera to create a jpeg from the merged raw.

Tried that, but I get the message: Please switch camera to record mode and take one shot.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: fer on 28 / August / 2011, 11:40:15
Hi!
Just wanted to tell you all that I've been following the whole process for a while now and, although I doubt I can help you in any way, I've downloaded beta3 and can't wait to see the final release. Thank you Waterwingz & beta test team!!
While playing with beta3 I've seen that the original Canon histogram won't disappear when entering <ALT> mode, hiding part of the CHDK menu. Is there any way to solve this?
Again, thank you!
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 28 / August / 2011, 11:47:44
While playing with beta3 I've seen that the original Canon histogram won't disappear when entering <ALT> mode, hiding part of the CHDK menu. Is there any way to solve this?

I'll log it as a bug but I'm not sure if its fixable.  The obvious work around is to disable the histogram in one or both of the two configurable views in the Canon  "Custom Display" menu.  You can then enable the much more informative CHDK histogram function if you still want to see a histogram when shooting.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: jphphotography on 28 / August / 2011, 16:29:32
Any plans to make this bootable via the fw update option in the future? I'd like to be able to use cards >4GB and have the option whether or not it loads when I turn on the camera. Just curious, right now I'm just glad there is a CHDK ;)
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 28 / August / 2011, 16:45:06
the original Canon histogram won't disappear when entering <ALT> mode, hiding part of the CHDK menu.

Also when in Manual mode, if the exposure indicator (on the right hand) moves, it "erases" the correspondent part of the menu. But that's not a biggie...
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 28 / August / 2011, 17:02:57
Also when in Manual mode, if the exposure indicator (on the right hand) moves, it "erases" the correspondent part of the menu. But that's not a biggie...
Its all relative. Prior to the latest versions,  the <ALT> menu was almost unusable in every camera model in shooting mode. Almost every movement in the background image would make the menu dissappear.  So compared to that, we are doing pretty well.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 29 / August / 2011, 04:34:26
You can use 'raw develop' in camera to create a jpeg from the merged raw.

Tried that, but I get the message: Please switch camera to record mode and take one shot.

Yep: from the manual:
Raw Develop (for RAW files created with CHDK, not the Canon native RAW of some cameras) Main Menu > RAW Parameters > RAW Develop
Another feature from CHDK developer ewavr. This allows you to select any RAW file on your SD card and then process it into a JPG file so that you may view it in your camera. Exceptionally handy after using any of the RAW Merge features so you can see the result without the need of a computer and extra RAW processing software.
Choose "RAW Develop" and a file-browser is displayed. Navigate to the RAW file that you want to process into a JPG file. After pressing SET to select your file, you will be asked to "Switch Camera to Record Mode and take one shot." Press SET again to back out of this menu, then use the <ALT> toggle button to exit <ALT> mode. Press the shutter button. Instead of taking an image, it will take that selected RAW file and now make a JPG file from it. It will be named according to whatever last JPG filename is in that folder and increment it by 1. Keep in mind that the EXIF data on this new JPG file will not reflect the original RAW file. It will use whatever camera settings were available at the time that you take the RAW Developing Shot for the resulting EXIF data.
Note: RAW file-saving must be turned ON for this feature to work. If RAW is not turned on, or you select a JPG file for "developing", then no action will take place.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: Askan2 on 29 / August / 2011, 08:05:18
 So i got an G10 1.02a
 The Beta3 doean`t work.
I;ve format the 1 Gb card as Fat 16
made it bootable
copied the Data on it
made the Cards writeprotect and pressed the On Button
never works, exepted Card ist write protected sxmbol.
I did it several Times .
On my Ixus 850 it works well, but on my G10 never
What do I made wrong?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 29 / August / 2011, 09:03:06
So i got an G10 1.02a
 The Beta3 doean`t work.
The 1.02a beta 3 for the G10 works, as documented by many users and myself.   So that leaves something in your process.

First of all, are you sure you have a 1.02A ?  The very first thing the boot loader does is turn on the Blue LED on the print button. This should happen if the camera tries to boot from the card even if your firmware version is wrong.  Do you see the Blue LED blink ?

Otherwise, it sounds like you have not really made the SD card bootable.  Can you use that card in your IXUS850 (with CHDK for that camera) and have it boot correctly ?

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: Askan2 on 30 / August / 2011, 05:09:33
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 30 / August / 2011, 10:58:08
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: OralDouglas on 30 / August / 2011, 20:27:24
Many, many thanks for all the people involved in this. Honestly it is a dream come true for me!

I mainly will be using the high speed shutter sync feature- I have been looking through the manuals on how to use this properly, but the only way I can find to do it is by setting the "override shutter speed" option in the CHDK menu. Should I be able to do it some other way, say while in the manual shooting mode without having to go through the CHDK menu all the time to change the shutter speed?

Thanks again!
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: Askan2 on 31 / August / 2011, 06:29:19


Quote
I tell how i Made it.
 Open  cardtricks 144
selecting right card
Format as Fat , Fat 16 is display, it is am 1 GB  Sandisk
Make Bootable
Decompress CHDK Zip file
CHDK Folger Operations: select folder G10-102A-Beta-3
Custom to CHDk
Job done!
Write Protect Card
put in Camera
Push on/off button

result :   Display says Card ist write protect

Sounds like you are doing everything correctly.  Did you open the SD card from your PC and verify that the DISKBOOT.BIN file is actually in the root directory of the card ?

Otherwise,  maybe its some wierd timing thing with that card and your G10 ?  Kind of a long shot - did you try using a different brand of card ?   I don't know what else to suggest here - sorry.



I`ve found the mistake!
I  know why , DISKBOOT.BIN got not the right Size, unstead of 265.625 bytes only 44 bytes on the Card and my PC
It was and failure in the extracting or download process,
i download it  a second time.

So, it works.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: altero on 31 / August / 2011, 11:37:15
Bug: while in File Browser and deleting several RAWs, either the progress bar dialog gets broken and freezes, or the deleted files appear with strange names (@"$&). In both cases, the files are properly deleted, so it's only a display thing.
It doesn't happen every time, so it's not reproductible.

I am very happy with this CHDK release, I'm preparing an article for my forum (MacUser.Ro).
Thank you!!!!
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / August / 2011, 11:45:14
H
Bug: while in File Browser and deleting several RAWs, either the progress bar dialog gets broken and freezes, or the deleted files appear with strange names (@"$&). In both cases, the files are properly deleted, so it's only a display thing.
It doesn't happen every time, so it's not reproductible.

There was also a report of menu lockup if you go to the font change menu and change the fonts a few times.  The time to lock up is variable but if you keep at it,  it always crashes eventually.

I wonder if there is a stack size issue or memory leak happening here ?

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing - BETA 4 NOW AVAILABLE
Post by: waterwingz on 31 / August / 2011, 21:04:33
Beta4 : Complete release of CHDK for the Canon G10

The G10 beta test team has finished testing beta release 4 of CHDK for the G10. There are links to the downloads in the first post of this thread at :     Beta 4 Download Post  (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=6687.msg70884#msg70884)

Notes for this fourth release :

1) CHDK RAW & DNG formats are fully supported and calibrated.  If you have Canon RAW mode enable,  CHDK will disable its RAW & DNG formats. Also, before you post here that you cannot open the CHDK RAW files,  please read this this Forum Thread about CHDK RAW : CHDK RAW Forum Post (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=1532.0)

2) Fast motion detection is now enabled.

3) A list of know bugs can be found here : G10 CHDK Beta Test Bug List (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoneohrr2KUBdHVEYkNQTUFsdVhVQ2VaUVpEejVQQ3c&hl=en_US#gid=1l)

4) This beta version only supports the "SD card lock" boot method.  The "firmware update" method is not available. If you are new to CHDK,  please read this wiki posting about preparing your SD card :  Bootable SD Card (http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Bootable_SD_card)

Thanks again to all the beta testers who tried out this release in advance and reported back.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 4 now available
Post by: matto on 01 / September / 2011, 23:09:00
thank you to waterwingz and all hero testers! great work.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 4 now available
Post by: altero on 02 / September / 2011, 03:45:58
I remember I saw somewhere instructions about how to take screenshots from the camera, but cannot find it. It's for my article about CHDK on G10, I'd like to include illustrations.
Thanks.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 4 now available
Post by: waterwingz on 02 / September / 2011, 20:04:56
I remember I saw somewhere instructions about how to take screenshots from the camera, but cannot find it. It's for my article about CHDK on G10, I'd like to include illustrations.

I'm guesssing it was a ptp thing - display the LCD screen via ptp on your PC and then use the PC screen capture function ?  I don't know enough about ptp to say if this will work or which client software to use.  A quick search of the forum returns lots of results but nothing that seems specific enough.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 4 now available
Post by: altero on 03 / September / 2011, 03:38:55
Yeah, I searched for "screenshot" and "print screen", but didn't found anything relevant.
There are tons of screenshots in the Wiki, so I thought it's something easy to do.
I'll dig more...
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 4 now available
Post by: philmoz on 03 / September / 2011, 04:00:17
Yeah, I searched for "screenshot" and "print screen", but didn't found anything relevant.
There are tons of screenshots in the Wiki, so I thought it's something easy to do.
I'll dig more...

Older cameras had a USB live view feature and software provided by Canon to use it on your PC.
Newer cameras don't have this any more.

There is work in progress to add this feature into CHDK - hopefully it will be available soon.
There's a sample screen shot I took from the IXUS 310 here - http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=4338.msg72009#msg72009 (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=4338.msg72009#msg72009)

Phil.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 4 now available
Post by: letailer on 05 / September / 2011, 06:05:48
Does CHDK for G10 support taking time lapse movies?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 4 now available
Post by: fe50 on 05 / September / 2011, 06:30:56
Hello & welcome, letailer !
Does CHDK for G10 support taking time lapse movies?
CHDK doesn't create TL movies...
To create TL movies, use an intervalometer script to capture still images, then create a movie with a software like VirtualDub...see also
* http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,4084.msg38221.html#msg38221 (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,4084.msg38221.html#msg38221)
* http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,5151.msg50515.html#msg50515 (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php/topic,5151.msg50515.html#msg50515)
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5 available
Post by: waterwingz on 05 / September / 2011, 14:44:31
The links at the start of this thread have been updated to point to Beta release 5 files.

This version picks up the latest changes in the main autobuild trunk.  G10 specific changes include corrections for the USB port not supporting remote switch operation and ptp not working.  Menu, font and logo scaling have been changed to the latest method resulting in a somewhat cleaner look. 

As always with these beta releases,  the firmware update method is not available.  Please use the SD Card boot method.

 Link to current bug status  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aoneohrr2KUBdHVEYkNQTUFsdVhVQ2VaUVpEejVQQ3c&hl=en_US&pli=1#gid=1)
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 4 now available
Post by: letailer on 05 / September / 2011, 15:43:52
To create TL movies, use an intervalometer script to capture still images
Cool, it is even better than built-in function, exact what I need :-)
Thanks!
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: waterwingz on 05 / September / 2011, 15:52:24
Cool, it is even better than built-in function, exact what I need :-)

With a little bit of code work,  you can modify these scripts (or use as a template to create your own) and get them to do exactly what you want them to do.  Ask for more help here : http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?board=7.0 (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?board=7.0) if you need it.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: waterwingz on 05 / September / 2011, 21:35:38
I remember I saw somewhere instructions about how to take screenshots from the camera, but cannot find it. It's for my article about CHDK on G10, I'd like to include illustrations.

altero :   I just got a great tip from chdk member Achillies.    If you have the video output cable for your G10 and can hook it to a video input on your PC then you have a great way of taking screenshots all day long !

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: altero on 06 / September / 2011, 03:40:03
Thanks waterwingz, I have the video cable somewhere, but have to figure out how to use whatever adapters I own in order to get the signal to my Mac.
Or I use the screenshots from the manual :)

The article is done (even if the CHDK it's still beta, it works nicely). It's in Romanian, so I don't put here the link.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: waterwingz on 06 / September / 2011, 09:11:01
The article is done (even if the CHDK it's still beta, it works nicely). It's in Romanian, so I don't put here the link.

The translate function in Google's chrome browser works pretty well - go ahead and post the link ?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: altero on 06 / September / 2011, 10:18:15
Here it is: http://www.macuser.ro/index.php/wiki/CHDK_pentru_Canon_G10/ (http://www.macuser.ro/index.php/wiki/CHDK_pentru_Canon_G10/)

(s?punier? = soap holder; a pejorative term for non-DSLR cameras :) )
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: letailer on 07 / September / 2011, 01:57:37
With a little bit of code work,  you can modify these scripts (or use as a template to create your own) and get them to do exactly what you want them to do.
I'll stick to existing for a while :-)
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: hanibal on 08 / September / 2011, 05:39:20
Do we have anyway to change AV to be smaller than F4.5 (F3.0, F2.8...) while zoom in maximum?
I really would like to take the photos somebody with the blur background! ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: waterwingz on 08 / September / 2011, 09:01:22
Do we have anyway to change AV to be smaller than F4.5 (F3.0, F2.8...) while zoom in maximum?
I really would like to take the photos somebody with the blur background! ^^

I believe you are running into a physical limitation that all zoom lenses share.  Nothing CHDK can do to change that.  As you zoom out,  the minimum f-stop number increases.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture#Maximum_and_minimum_apertures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture#Maximum_and_minimum_apertures)

However,  the question you are asking is really about depth of field rather than f-stop. While they are related,  they are not the same thing.  It would be interesting to hear from the forum photography experts about how the depth of field changes as a lens zooms



Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Release Testing : BETA 5
Post by: hanibal on 09 / September / 2011, 03:16:49
Do we have anyway to change AV to be smaller than F4.5 (F3.0, F2.8...) while zoom in maximum?
I really would like to take the photos somebody with the blur background! ^^

I believe you are running into a physical limitation that all zoom lenses share.  Nothing CHDK can do to change that.  As you zoom out,  the minimum f-stop number increases.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture#Maximum_and_minimum_apertures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture#Maximum_and_minimum_apertures)

However,  the question you are asking is really about depth of field rather than f-stop. While they are related,  they are not the same thing.  It would be interesting to hear from the forum photography experts about how the depth of field changes as a lens zooms


Thanks waterwingz FYI.
BETA 5! We're running fast! ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: waterwingz on 10 / September / 2011, 19:24:07
CHDK for the G10 was added to the autobuild server today.  Many thanks to the beta test team and in particular  knonaka, altero, JK4U, RayC, olf, Iormangund, lightfusegetaway and especially Ian for your detailed beta test reports.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: hanibal on 12 / September / 2011, 03:37:44
CHDK for the G10 was added to the autobuild server today.  Many thanks to the beta test team and in particular  knonaka, altero, JK4U, RayC, olf, Iormangund, lightfusegetaway and especially Ian for your detailed beta test reports.

Great news!
Congratulation, waterwingz ^^
God blessing us! ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: loign on 22 / September / 2011, 04:48:19
CHDK for the G10 was added to the autobuild server today.  Many thanks to the beta test team and in particular  knonaka, altero, JK4U, RayC, olf, Iormangund, lightfusegetaway and especially Ian for your detailed beta test reports.

thank you, i would like to try asap.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: hanibal on 28 / October / 2011, 00:03:54
Any News, guys? ^^
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: waterwingz on 28 / October / 2011, 01:18:10
Any News, guys? ^^
Hello hanibal.  What news were you waiting for ?   CHDK for the G10 has been released for a while and judging by the lack of comments, is working well.  At least that's the case for my camera.

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : time lapse YOUTUBE video link
Post by: waterwingz on 18 / November / 2011, 21:36:12
72 hr time-lapse using the new CHDK for the Canon G10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWuqWAyWTSw#ws)
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: rocket187um on 19 / December / 2011, 14:58:50
Nice work! Is there a bulb feature included?
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: waterwingz on 19 / December / 2011, 15:14:12
Is there a bulb feature included?
If I understand the definition of "bulb" correctly,  you want to be able to open the shutter with the press of the shutter button and have it stay open until you release that button ?

So far as I know,  its not possible to control the shutter directly with CHDK.  But you can set quite long shutter speeds so the lens stays open a long time.  This is lame but I guess you could try that and then place a dark card in front of the lens when you wished to cut off the exposure manually ?

Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: philmoz on 19 / December / 2011, 16:51:10
Is there a bulb feature included?
If I understand the definition of "bulb" correctly,  you want to be able to open the shutter with the press of the shutter button and have it stay open until you release that button ?

So far as I know,  its not possible to control the shutter directly with CHDK.  But you can set quite long shutter speeds so the lens stays open a long time.  This is lame but I guess you could try that and then place a dark card in front of the lens when you wished to cut off the exposure manually ?



Easy enough to write a 'bulb' script - but it would have to use another button to activate and then close the shutter since the shutter button will start / stop the script.

Phil.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: waterwingz on 19 / December / 2011, 17:07:47
Easy enough to write a 'bulb' script
I must be having a slow day - what script command would you use to open and close the shutter?  Or maybe start and then cancel a long exposure on the fly?

Quote
- but it would have to use another button to activate and then close the shutter since the shutter button will start / stop the script.
Might be best to use the USB remote here anyway - so as not to jiggle the camera during the exposure.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: philmoz on 19 / December / 2011, 17:16:05
Easy enough to write a 'bulb' script
I must be having a slow day - what script command would you use to open and close the shutter?  Or maybe start and then cancel a long exposure on the fly?

Quote
- but it would have to use another button to activate and then close the shutter since the shutter button will start / stop the script.
Might be best to use the USB remote here anyway - so as not to jiggle the camera during the exposure.


Code: [Select]
press "shoot_half"
press "shoot_full"

...
code to wait for another button or remote
...

release "shoot_full"
release "shoot_half"

Phil.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: waterwingz on 19 / December / 2011, 17:22:50
Maybe I'm being a bit thick,  but
Code: [Select]
press "shoot_half"
press "shoot_full"

 just does the same thing as pushing the shutter button manually and holding it down.  The camera takes a picture at the current exposure and ISO setting.   It doesn't hold the shutter open while the button is pressed ???
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: philmoz on 19 / December / 2011, 17:26:25
Maybe I'm being a bit thick,  but
Code: [Select]
press "shoot_half"
press "shoot_full"

 just does the same thing as pushing the shutter button manually and holding it down.  The camera takes a picture at the current exposure and ISO setting.   It doesn't hold the shutter open while the button is pressed ???

My bad, I thought it worked the other way.
That's what happens when you reply to posts before the morning coffee :)

Phil.
Title: Re: CHDK for the G10 : Beta Testing : [Now available from the autobuild server]
Post by: fudgey on 08 / January / 2012, 08:46:09
Shutter can be controlled with native calls, see e.g.
http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=4337.msg61346#msg61346 (http://chdk.setepontos.com/index.php?topic=4337.msg61346#msg61346)

To simulate bulb mode you would set up a very long exposure and then toggle the shutter when you wish. You can't interrupt exposure, just close the shutter and a very long exposures often equal bad image quality due to amp glow and noise, so it's not ideal.